Enlist with the canadian army if you enjoy life, ya sure.

[Tassadar]

This their slogan, and this is what they do.

Veterans compensated for poison gas experiments
Last Updated Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:52:48
OTTAWA - Ottawa has announced a $50-million compensation program for veterans injured in poison gas experiments in Canada that began in 1941 and continued until 1970.


Veterans Affairs Minister John McCallum and Defence Minister David Pratt said the program provides single payments of $24,000 to each soldier involved in the experiments, conducted in Ottawa and Suffield, Alta.

Some 3,500 soldiers were subjected to the tests. Of these, 2,000 are still alive.

McCallum said the tests were "appalling and unacceptable," adding that the federal government is "responding to a moral imperative."

The lump-sum payment will be added to any pensions the soldiers and their families already receive. For those who are dead, the payment will be made to the beneficiaries of their estates.

McCallum said many of the soldiers never told of their difficulties, not even to their families, having signed oaths of secrecy.

Link:http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/02/19/compensation_vets040219

Never trust those which have power over you, iether in army or buisness.

 

[The Yankee]

Wow...2,000 out of 3,500. Good odds! Certainly better than my current life expectancy of 17 years...given that I'm 18 now.

 

[amadeus]

Originally posted by Tassadar
Never trust those which have power over you, iether in army or buisness.

Or government.

 

[thestonesfan]

Originally posted by rmsharpe


Or government.

Yeah Tass, don't leave them out. You wouldn't want us to think you're a socialist, would you?

 

[Goober]

Well, these experiments were done a long time ago, and one must remember, this was wartime. Not terribly uncommon, they wanted physically fit "volunteers" to, uh . . . volunteer? Apparently they were told there would be no lasting side effects, these were just harmless experiments to aid the cause or some propagande BS. But then again, the scientists might not have know how deadly this stuff was, although one might think they would test these things on animals (no offense) first . . .

And a pitiful 24,000$ CANADIAN $?!?!?! Come on, that is pathetic. i guess the government is starting low, and gonna go up after. I mean, these guys have suffered, they are gonna die relatively soon anyways, this is the only fair thing to do. Or, maybe we just shoudn't do these kinda things in the first place.

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

I'm shocked. In fact, I'm astonished... amazed... appalled.

They tested poison gas on 3.5 THOUSAND SOLDIERS?

And what the hell did they do with the other half of the Canadian Army?

:rimshot:

 

[Goober]

Originally posted by Pontiuth Pilate
And what the hell did they do with the other half of the Canadian Army?

What do you mean the "other half"? That was our military them!!! Oh, they did conscript like half the country, but those were our only true military men. Of course, nowadays, we have even less soldiers. Quite pathetic, really. We still had German Tanks from WW2 as our main batle tanks, they are only being replaced with 6-wheeled vehicles that can actually fit in our heavy air transports now. So pathetic . . .

 

[Tassadar]

Originally posted by RealGoober
Well, these experiments were done a long time ago, and one must remember, this was wartime.

And a pitiful 24,000$ CANADIAN $?!?!?! Come on, that is pathetic.

1.-Long time ago 50 year, come on.

2.- I agree, this amount of money is ridiculous, in USA you would have been a billionair.

 

[Shadylookin]

well since were talking the latest at over 30 years ago the substances used evidently weren't that poisonous. and with the earliest test being over 60 years ago it is quite likely that many died of natural causes. btw what were the substances used? Not that i'm justifing trying to kill the only people defending you, but the effects do seem minimal.

 

[Goober]

I know Mustard Gas was used for sure, not sure what else . . .

It could have only been mustard gas. And other Allies were doing these exact same tests, btw. I know Australia, and potentially the States tested the effect of Mustard Gas on soldiers during this time . . .

 

[Achinz]

The recent publicity about the compensation for the "Merry widows" of the firemen killed on 9/11 (Oz format) certainly put the sum here in perspective.

It's a double-whammy. First you got to worry your guts out getting the condition to be recognised (years in the making) and then get peanuts when you succeed. It's the same scenario all over the world for military guinea pigs.

 

[Tassadar]

Originally posted by Achinz
It's the same scenario all over the world for military guinea pigs.

Yes , my previous brother in law was engage, he told me that he receive a lots of shots whitout beeing told the why.

I would have never let those military zealots shot me with anything with a seringe. Only devosious do.

 

[yoshi]

...And that's why I never joined the Army.

Between the bio-food, vaccines and getting free chemo treatment whenever you get to close to U-tipped warheads, only to be 'smart'-bombed by your 'allies,' there's not really much to enjoy.

Oh, and I forgot to mention getting shipped of to some poor-as-$hit country, whose 'army' is still using AK-47s from before those Canadian tests were done, just in order to strut around like an idiot while trying to ignore the scowls of the locals.

My advice: forget the Army...join the Air Force or the Navy! If you're in Canada, you'll only risk dying in a helicopter that's older than you are or a submarine that leaks... Otherwise, what better way to enjoy life?

 

[Ozz]

If want to be safe, stay home. You join for RISK and adventure,
equipment quality isn't a state secret.

 

[yoshi]

Tell that to those Canadian test subjects. Or better yet, tell that to the GIs who came back from the Gulf only to die from the after effects of their own country's use of unconvenstional weapons during the war.

Adventure and risk implies being challenged to (forgive me) 'be all you can be.' There is neither in what's been described above. Nor is there anything justifiable in bad equipment quality (that's putting it lightly by the way)...let alone losing your life as a result of the accidents that follow.

It's not about being safe. It's about not dying as a guinea pig or in a stupid accident. Hell, you can be *ucking Rambo and it means diddly $hit when it comes to this sort of thing.

 

[silver 2039]

Originally posted by yoshi
Or better yet, tell that to the GIs who came back from the Gulf only to die from the after effects of their own country's use of unconvenstional weapons during the war.

.

 

[The Person]

Seems like the USA isn't the only weird country in North America. Well, now we're up in 2/3.

Luckily, I've lost my faith in the human race so I shouldn't care. (But for some reason I still do.)