Err...nowhere to go?

jakej

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Well the game just started, im not worried about much, only that to the south of me is ALL JUNGLE! So that pretty much makes it so i couldnt have any cities there because of disease, right? My question is which way should i expand? Well if you want to take a look heres a screen shot....

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To my northeast is greece, south is carthage, and to the southwest of them is Egypt. I'm just wondering which way i should go since south probably isnt very good for cites...

Edit: Alright photobucket sucks....automatically resizing my pictures.... :mad:
 
head south with about 10 workers. Save some for when rubber comes, though.
 
Should i have the workers work on a few squares at a time together or just have them each work on their own square?
 
Continue in all directions particularly in the NW from what I can see on the minimap.
Settle on as much fresh water as you can and just build more workers so maybe as many as 3 per city and clear the jungles. Collect the iron and spices too.

Personally I prefer a little tighter placement. It looks like you have 5 tiles between the two cities on your map so maybe squeeze another between them.
 
The rubber will be there whether or not you chop the jungle. I can't tell you who are but I don't think any of the red civs are industrial so it will be a pain to chop all the jungle, but its worth it.
 
I would expand to the north like mad and creep to the south.
But make sure to get them luxes and Iron. Also settle them Flood plains ASAP, them make perfect worker factories.

Any city you settle in the jungle make it produce atleast 1 maybe 2 workers, First road to your core then chop away (with your free workers & Slaves) but make sure to have your core fully developped.

There are some real sweat spots here.. 2S-1SE of that town, on the river end... Perfect.
Further SE next to that hill on either lake, sweat... You can get 2 in there... 1NW of the Iron Hill and the other 1NW of the Hill-Mountain.

Also get one 2 W of the "Iron hill" town for them luxes (get this one first, AI love lux)

And is that another lake on the outmost west? Get one town there too... Good jungle...

I think I would expand something like 3 town N vs 2 S
 
This is a great start. I just had the same "problem" too. It took until 1500 AD to clear out all that jungle, and there was only the capital and a few outer rim cities for the longest time.

Suggestions:

1) Look for overseas luxury clusters you can settle on or culture grab. (Watch for wars around luxury clusters where culture borders will shrink after conquest and drop a settler in there.) Look for overseas settler/worker factories which might have high corruption, but will grow faster than you can in your territory as it looks now, i.e. rush buy after the population has grown.

2) Try to very carefully plan and clear jungle in order of use ("one, two, three, and that's seven, and that's gonna take four and to move without a road is one more..."). Roads take longer to build in jungle, so probably clear it first, however if you build the road first then the workers can move in and chop that same turn. Generally I cleared the jungle first unless a road was really needed.

3) Try a few small wars with the purpose of capturing slave workers and also rush buy the conqured population as settlers and workers.

4) Buy workers from other civs when they happen to be in their capital.

5) Once that jungle is cleared out, you should have some fantastic land, and you may have a total monopoly on coal if not rubber when it appears (try to block other civs from any stray sources with an ROP and fortify a unit on the coal square before it can be roaded).

6) Once you can build RRs, (about the same time you get all the jungle cleared), you should be able to do so with great speed. ***Steampower, coal, RRs and workers may have a big role in your strategy in the future, think carefully about how to take advantage of that century.***

7) Seeing as you won't have much population or gold or production for a long time (everything important to "realist" stratagists) you might want to get some big culture and/or science or gold via trade going.
 
I will go to jungles too. Though there is bunch of disease, there are some resourses that are worth that. Bunch of workers/slaves will help!

EDIT: My 100th post!!! :dance: :band: :hatsoff:
 
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