Facism civic

[blunt3d]

Anyone know why a facism civic was never added with the tech i know police state was added but maybe it could decrease neighboring culture influence over time,and you could kick enemy religions out of youre city's,but would decrease you're diplomatic realations with that civ -1.

 

[PotatoSamurai]

Fascism is basically just Police State, Nationalism, and Free Market. The whole point of the civics system is to allow you to create your own government rather than being forced to take governmental systems whole cloth, like in Civ3.

Fascism doesn't have anything to do with religion, btw. Hitler and Mussolini were both proud Christians and did nothing to impede Christianity's dominance in society. Hell, Hitler even said that his revival of Germany and expansion of German dominance was God's mission unto the German people. You're equating fascism with communism, a common but egregious error.

 

[Larklight]

I would be inclined to aire more towards Merchantilism. While Fascists often dealt with Corperations, signification restrictions were placed upon them, with the good of the nation coming above private interests. Farmers would be required to hire more hands than made economic sense, for example. Merchantilism however clearly demonstates the element of desiring to be better and stronger than one's neighbours, hurting foreign interests.

Indeed, the first fascists grew out of socialism, and the first socialists (around the time of the french revolution) were very sure about what would happen to those who didn't agree 'treated like cattle' to quote one.

What about the labour civic? I'm unsure of which they would have.

 

[jkp1187]

I would be inclined to aire more towards Merchantilism. While Fascists often dealt with Corperations, signification restrictions were placed upon them, with the good of the nation coming above private interests. Farmers would be required to hire more hands than made economic sense, for example. Merchantilism however clearly demonstates the element of desiring to be better and stronger than one's neighbours, hurting foreign interests.

Indeed, the first fascists grew out of socialism, and the first socialists (around the time of the french revolution) were very sure about what would happen to those who didn't agree 'treated like cattle' to quote one.

What about the labour civic? I'm unsure of which they would have.

Agree w/ Mercantilism -- Fascism (and its fellow-traveler, Nazism,) was all about autarky.

 

[PotatoSamurai]

I would be inclined to aire more towards Merchantilism. While Fascists often dealt with Corperations, signification restrictions were placed upon them, with the good of the nation coming above private interests. Farmers would be required to hire more hands than made economic sense, for example. Merchantilism however clearly demonstates the element of desiring to be better and stronger than one's neighbours, hurting foreign interests.

Indeed, the first fascists grew out of socialism, and the first socialists (around the time of the french revolution) were very sure about what would happen to those who didn't agree 'treated like cattle' to quote one.

What about the labour civic? I'm unsure of which they would have.

Good question. I guess you could equate the concentration camps with Slavery or Serfdom (probably the former), and maybe the appointment system of autocratic bureaucracies in general with Caste System.

Maybe Germany's unique building should be a concentration camp, like the Aztec's sac altar

Fascism was never a socialist system, though. The Nazis were basically just a band of lower-class nationalists who opposed the spread of Communism until they got Hitler, after which they became an unstoppable powerhourse that exploited fear of Communism's spread (especially in fear of Russia gaining dominance over the West). It wasn't until after they had taken control that they took some parts of Mussolini's doctrine and applied it to themselves.

National Socialists were/are about as socialist as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is... well, you know There's only one word in the DPRK that is actually true.

 

[bestbrian]

Death camp humor? Not cool.

 

[PotatoSamurai]

Death camp humor? Not cool.

Lighten up, it's the 21st century. We're maybe five or ten years away from having all the survivors die out. If you were indeed offended, then I apologize, but you should probably shake that chip off your shoulder.

I mean, it's not like Slavery wasn't a horrible, vicious thing in history either, but it's in there. If were black, should I be offended? Same with Mao Zedong, Stalin, and Tokugawa (crucified Christians ala Roman Empire).

 

[bestbrian]

Lighten up, it's the 21st century. We're maybe five or ten years away from having all the survivors die out.

Your degree of sensitivity is heart-warming.

 

[mintyfreshdeath]

This unstoppable powerhorse will devour us all!