Fascist & communist soccer teams?

[logical_psycho]

A lot of those big Italian and Spanish soccer clubs have a lot of fans who are neo-nazi's. I saw a documentary about it once... not a nice world to be in to be honest. I remember when Jaap Stam played in Italy, the fans loved him... because he is big, bald and white.... even though he doesn't have any nazi sympathy at all.

 

[Pasi Nurminen]

that's the most lame and stupid thing I've seen in this thread.. now I don't really get mad by it, but can you see that it might be a bit offensive for Germans? Shortsightetness...

Oh for Christ's sake, lighten up.

 

[SonicX]

Sonic.. you should know something about "verzuiling"

The "royalification" of teams has little to do with the "verzuiling" thing ...
Don't get me started on it though, it is that subcultural stratification (or however you translate it) that made Belgian unions to strong

 

[willemvanoranje]

A lot of those big Italian and Spanish soccer clubs have a lot of fans who are neo-nazi's. I saw a documentary about it once... not a nice world to be in to be honest. I remember when Jaap Stam played in Italy, the fans loved him... because he is big, bald and white.... even though he doesn't have any nazi sympathy at all.

Yeah.. when Aaron Winter played at Lazio he was one of the many dark players in history that got attacked and offended verbally by their own fans..

 

[PrinceOfLeigh]

Yeah.. when Aaron Winter played at Lazio he was one of the many dark players in history that got attacked and offended verbally by their own fans..

IIRC Paul Ince left Inter Milan for similar reasons

 

[bhsup]

American college football has a team named after an old terrorist movement. Can anyone guess which one it is?

 

[Pasi Nurminen]

University of Nebraska?

 

[bhsup]

Cornhuskers?! Um, no. Well, I suppose if you're corn you might think of it that way.

It's the University of Kansas Jayhawks. The name comes from the Jayhawkers in Kansas during the border war with Missouri. Missouri's counterparts were known as the Bushwhackers. By modern standards, both groups would easily fit the definition of terrorist groups.

 

[Dell19]

How are you going to find out exactly which people in a crowd of tens of thousands flew that Nazi flag ?

Allocate specific seat numbers to fans so that you can find out who was in that seating area.

 

[Lambert Simnel]

Back when I lived in Scotland and went to Celtic-Rangers games, both sets of fans would sing songs in praise of different para-military groups (terrorists to you and me) - Celtic in favour of the IRA, Rangers in favour of the UDA. I guess they might have quietened down a bit recently and just support Sinn Fein and the DUP, but I somehow doubt it.

The chanting, of course, wasn't limited to the games, but also to travelling to and from games, in pubs, street fights, and school trips (schools being prettty much segregated in central Scotland). Paul Gascoigne's pretense at flute-playing as per an Orange Order march was thus very much in the same category as Di Canio's fascist salutes.

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[Joeb WK]

Allocate specific seat numbers to fans so that you can find out who was in that seating area.

Yeah or you can fire tear gas at the whole crowd if you want to start a riot which the police often do. Police rarely seem to actually want to stop riots, infact they're the ones who useually start them.

 

[Dell19]

Yeah or you can fire tear gas at the whole crowd if you want to start a riot which the police often do. Police rarely seem to actually want to stop riots, infact they're the ones who useually start them.

Oh my god! What a totally random post and I wonder how accurate it is?

 

[Suppersalmon]

Dear Old Palo still getting in to trouble he still makes me laugh when he pushed the REF over. i wish he was playing for charlton still

 

[Joeb WK]

Oh my god! What a totally random post and I wonder how accurate it is?

Prehaps its not entirely accurate but the police are often one of the main culprits in starting football riots and often generally tend to antagonize people into attacking them at other times as well.
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Back when I lived in Scotland and went to Celtic-Rangers games, both sets of fans would sing songs in praise of different para-military groups (terrorists to you and me) - Celtic in favour of the IRA, Rangers in favour of the UDA. I guess they might have quietened down a bit recently and just support Sinn Fein and the DUP, but I somehow doubt it.

That reminds me of that games against Ireland and when Ireland scored all the England fans started chanting "No surrender to the IRA."

 

[Inter4]

IIRC Paul Ince left Inter Milan for similar reasons

Many black players have played for Inter (currently we have 2 african players and are about to buy another one this winter). That was not the reason he left Inter Milan.

 

[Dell19]

Besides there is a reason for the name of the club.

I didn't comment earlier about that since Ince could have been talking about Italian fans of any club that they played against.

 

[Joeb WK]

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Well in the miners strike some of the British police used to try and aggravate miners by waving money at them and alot also used to beat their shields and the like to try and goad them into attacking, police also went ott in the miners strike by attacking unnecessarily on horse back and then chasing down the routed miners with short-shielded snatch squads. In terms on football riots take France 98 when police decided to bring in armoured vehicles in, who attacked huge groups over the tinyist little things which generally caused them to escalate into larger thing. Not that I'm saying the England fans where completly innocent or anything because we all now they weren't.

 

[Lambert Simnel]

@Rik

Much as I am unaccustomed to agreeing with Joel on anything, Rik, there are many occasions when the British police have been extremely anatagonistic, both in connection with football and with labour disputes. Are they worse than other police forces ? Well, no, I don't particularly think so, and some of the treatment of British football fans on the continent has been barbaric - but I doubt many who have regularly gone to UK football matches over the past 20 years wouldn't have sympathy with what Joel's saying.

 

[Blanco-PL]

LoL I'm just laughing when I hear **** like that Lazio is a team from Rome so they're using a Roman salute... This gay-boy hitler stole this salute from ancient Romans but it doesn't mean that it's a fascist salute... Jeez, guys learn some history

 

[Hitro]

LoL I'm just laughing when I hear **** like that Lazio is a team from Rome so they're using a Roman salute... This gay-boy hitler stole this salute from ancient Romans but it doesn't mean that it's a fascist salute... Jeez, guys learn some history

Guess your history lessons never included a guy called Mussolini, eh?