choraltrickster
Chieftain
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- Jan 19, 2015
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I finally won on Deity!! (standard, standard, pangea-plus). Diplomatic Victory on turn 404(?)
I've been trying for so long I just had to post! Immortal has become the perfect difficulty level--I win just under half of the time (that I play past turn 150.. sometimes I bail) and can win pretty easily with Dipl or Science and have won once with Dom. Deity has always proven too difficult though.
Interesting game for me as I only conquered one city--which was a city state that I needed for my DipVC. I played Shoshone and went Liberty, settling 6 initial cities, then 3 more, making 9. I crowded my neighbours, Denmark, Byzantium and Aztecs and skirmished with them each a few times, but with no cities changing hands. On the middle landmass Japan battled France, and further away Spain and Celts went at it.
Playing Shoshone was amazing. I have had other great Deity games playing Arabia, Morocco, Persia and Mayans, but Shoshone is so great for getting a jump closing that brutal gap in Deity due to hut picking and lands reaching third ring upon settling. I think I nabbed one worker each from Byzantium and Denmark. I still lagged at 1/2 points of the leader most of the game, but different that other games, I didn't fall behind (badly) in Science, which kept me in it. I missed out on a religion, but I got Oracle, Petra, and Machu, while expanding to nice double-lux lands and the Grand Mesa. I filled Liberty (though went Representation and Citizenship before Collective Rule, which I don't usually do... seemed to work). Then opened Commerce intending to fill it, but opened Patronage also so I could try and build Forbidden Palace, since I was able to get Machu and Petra in the same line. I missed out on FP, but managed to fill Commerce before I had even chosen my Ideology iirc. I thought having Mercantilism would allow me to hang on to Freedom as second adopter, but I still ended up in revolt and had to switch to Order along with everyone except Japan and Spain. My expansion irritated my neighbours, but unlike most of my games, I kept my reputation pretty clean by not capturing any cities. I had thought this would mean a disastrous game as I usually rely on catching up on the scoreboard by capturing a wonder-laded capital or two, but my healthy economy bolstered by cargo ships and relative peace set up a solid economy. Once I finished Commerce, I finished Patronage and opened a few from Rationalism to keep pace. I ended up with three Order policies. I took lots of gold loans, and held the money until one turn before the council. I managed to get Big Ben, win World's fair, and eventually took over host; pushed through World Ideology; embargoed Japan who was running away with it on the scoreboard (had like 25 cities... city-spammed everywhere, and took several from France and Aztecs). At the time of Victory, Japan and Denmark each needed just one spaceship component. I had to liberate a CS with a fleet of cruisers to get my required 38.
A little bummed I didn't get the Steam achievement as I used Really Advanced Setup to eliminate Venice from AI randomization... oh well. Mission accomplished! Thanks for all of the tips over the years!
I've been trying for so long I just had to post! Immortal has become the perfect difficulty level--I win just under half of the time (that I play past turn 150.. sometimes I bail) and can win pretty easily with Dipl or Science and have won once with Dom. Deity has always proven too difficult though.
Interesting game for me as I only conquered one city--which was a city state that I needed for my DipVC. I played Shoshone and went Liberty, settling 6 initial cities, then 3 more, making 9. I crowded my neighbours, Denmark, Byzantium and Aztecs and skirmished with them each a few times, but with no cities changing hands. On the middle landmass Japan battled France, and further away Spain and Celts went at it.
Playing Shoshone was amazing. I have had other great Deity games playing Arabia, Morocco, Persia and Mayans, but Shoshone is so great for getting a jump closing that brutal gap in Deity due to hut picking and lands reaching third ring upon settling. I think I nabbed one worker each from Byzantium and Denmark. I still lagged at 1/2 points of the leader most of the game, but different that other games, I didn't fall behind (badly) in Science, which kept me in it. I missed out on a religion, but I got Oracle, Petra, and Machu, while expanding to nice double-lux lands and the Grand Mesa. I filled Liberty (though went Representation and Citizenship before Collective Rule, which I don't usually do... seemed to work). Then opened Commerce intending to fill it, but opened Patronage also so I could try and build Forbidden Palace, since I was able to get Machu and Petra in the same line. I missed out on FP, but managed to fill Commerce before I had even chosen my Ideology iirc. I thought having Mercantilism would allow me to hang on to Freedom as second adopter, but I still ended up in revolt and had to switch to Order along with everyone except Japan and Spain. My expansion irritated my neighbours, but unlike most of my games, I kept my reputation pretty clean by not capturing any cities. I had thought this would mean a disastrous game as I usually rely on catching up on the scoreboard by capturing a wonder-laded capital or two, but my healthy economy bolstered by cargo ships and relative peace set up a solid economy. Once I finished Commerce, I finished Patronage and opened a few from Rationalism to keep pace. I ended up with three Order policies. I took lots of gold loans, and held the money until one turn before the council. I managed to get Big Ben, win World's fair, and eventually took over host; pushed through World Ideology; embargoed Japan who was running away with it on the scoreboard (had like 25 cities... city-spammed everywhere, and took several from France and Aztecs). At the time of Victory, Japan and Denmark each needed just one spaceship component. I had to liberate a CS with a fleet of cruisers to get my required 38.
A little bummed I didn't get the Steam achievement as I used Really Advanced Setup to eliminate Venice from AI randomization... oh well. Mission accomplished! Thanks for all of the tips over the years!
