Freezing and reboots- NVIDIA 7600GT

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ZeroAngel

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Well, I followed the advice in this thread to no avail:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=145238

I am having trouble with the game constantly freezing (with the freezing getting progressively longer and more frequent) and ultimately reboots when playing later in the game or on huge maps.

I have the 1.61 patch (updated within the game), I do not have Warlords.

Gateway GT5252 (with new video card and extra RAM)
http://support.gateway.com/s/pc/R/1009149/1009149nv.shtml

AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 4600+ dual-core processor 3800+
FIC K2BC51 Motherboard with NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Chipset
3 gigs DDR2 RAM
7600GT NVIDIA.

Please help! I can't understand what is going on. My system is more than enough to run this game. I can run Oblivion with very high frame rates and no problem at all. This is really annoying. Thank you.
 
To be true just turning movies and back ground music off solved my problems.
Try to turn off movies and back ground music with out any other changes.
 
Mutineer said:
To be true just turning movies and back ground music off solved my problems.
Try to turn off movies and back ground music with out any other changes.
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There's got to be a better solution than that. This game has been out for quite awhile. I can't believe that there aren't others out there that have the same card as I do (it's a relatively common and popluar card) and haven't found a way to solve this problem.

Anyone else? Please help, this is really annoying.
 
something you could try is open the civ4 ini file and change this setting:

; Set max frame rate clamp (0 means none)
SetMaxFrameRate = 0

Set it to 50 or so.. the default setting of no limit means a powerful graphics card will render at full speed, and this may actually cause it to overheat if it has insufficent cooling. The overheating will cause freezes and reboots.
 
Gyathaar said:
something you could try is open the civ4 ini file and change this setting:

; Set max frame rate clamp (0 means none)
SetMaxFrameRate = 0

Set it to 50 or so.. the default setting of no limit means a powerful graphics card will render at full speed, and this may actually cause it to overheat if it has insufficent cooling. The overheating will cause freezes and reboots.
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Tried that, I think I set it to 30 actually. Didn't work, I think it's some kind of memory issue (not graphics), it acts like one might expect a memory leak to act. I am at work right now though and not at home so I can't run the system resource montior thing.

I read some earlier threads were some people had similiar problems and set their min max page file to the same value or something to that effect, but one would think this would be fixed by 1.61(!!).
 
3 gigs of dual channel ram? Have you tried running memtest to see if perhaps the third gig not in dual cahnnel is messing things up? Perhaps you have a bad stick of ram. Is it the same manufacturer and timing?
 
OK, whats memtest?

I really don't think its either of the problems you both mentioned. I believe I already have that hotfix from Microsoft because it was recommended for NWN2 as well.

I don't understand it. NWN2 runs well. Hitman: Blood Money is damn fast, Oblivion is SCREAMING. What the heck is up with Civ? My system should blow this game out of the water, instead it just progressively gets worse on huge maps (starting out as nearly perfect on the highest res and details) culminating in serious lockups and eventually reboots.

I tried all the recommendations here and apolyton.net. disbling audio hardware excel, anti-aliasing, latest drivers, .ini changes, windowed mode, full mode, virtual mem settings, everything! It seems go be OK and then its the same thing over and over again.

This is really annoying. Would contacting Firaxis help?

Thanks guys in advance.
 
Here are the dxdiag results. Please help guys. I am really disappointed that I can't play Civ, I've been playing since the first Civ :P.

Thanks!
 
Have you tried updating your bios? The dxdiag isnt very exact on the bios version.. Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG could be any time from 2003 to today.
I saw Gateway released a bios update for your machine in november 2006.. dont know what fixes it contains thou.
 
Gyathaar said:
Have you tried updating your bios? The dxdiag isnt very exact on the bios version.. Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG could be any time from 2003 to today.
I saw Gateway released a bios update for your machine in november 2006.. dont know what fixes it contains thou.
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OK, I got the new BIOS (I did need an upgrade) and then it actually got worse! But, this is not entirely a bad thing because what actually happened was that after installing the BIOS graphical glithces and errors became apparent. There was weird whitish "nets" all over the ground, kind of like snow.

So, I figured it must be at least related to graphics. I tried turning off "high detail terrain" and low and behold it seems to work fine (knock on wood).

I guess I just assumed my card should have absolutely no problem with "high detail" as it seem to run fine at first, then later came the slowdown / lockups / reboots.

I really don't understand why it is having such a hard time though. I mean my computer exceeds the recommended specs.

I thought that perhaps I should configure the processor affinity to use only one processor. I'll try that later tonight. You guys ever hear about that helping?

Thanks!
 
Looks like it could possibly be the power supply. I mistakenly believed it to be a 350W, I cracked open my box today and it turns out its 300W. Never had a problem with any other games, but perhaps running Civ4 on the highest graphics levels is actually more taxing then Oblivion *sigh*.

Sorry to waste your guys time, but thank you very much for your help. I'll just run it at a lower setting for the time being. Thanks again.
 
ZeroAngel said:
So, I figured it must be at least related to graphics. I tried turning off "high detail terrain" and low and behold it seems to work fine (knock on wood).
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Actually I have problems with the high detailed terrain settings too.. in some cases it can cause my computer to lock up for up to a minute at a time if I have map grids turned on.
This was fixed for me in 2.08 patch for warlords thou

(I have a 6800 card thou)
 
I had trouble with my Nvidia card too. Its defaults set the SDRAM to tightly.
On the controls Display settings, I backed of the MSI settings as low as they would go. Civ 4 and Warlords runs smoothly now. It still lags on huge maps if high detail terrain is used in the game.
 
VonBill said:
I had trouble with my Nvidia card too. Its defaults set the SDRAM to tightly.
On the controls Display settings, I backed of the MSI settings as low as they would go. Civ 4 and Warlords runs smoothly now. It still lags on huge maps if high detail terrain is used in the game.
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Could you explain alittle what you mean with this ?
What are the steps you take to change this setting.
I tried to find it yesterday but im not sure i even look
at the right place.

Cheers
 
I went to the start button. Then the settings button. Then the Display Icon.
Next is a page, one of the tabs is for MSI Clock. I moved both the memory clock and core clocks settings to the left which lowered them a bit.
It worked for me. My computer has windows XP.
 
Gyathaar said:
Have you tried updating your bios? The dxdiag isnt very exact on the bios version.. Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG could be any time from 2003 to today.
I saw Gateway released a bios update for your machine in november 2006.. dont know what fixes it contains thou.
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:confused: Can you tell me where can i find its driver updates please
 
mikeshshr said:
:confused: Can you tell me where can i find its driver updates please
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If the PC is built from parts, then look on the motherboard manufacturers webpage, else if you have a preassembled PC (like Dell, etc) then look on the webpage of that manufacturer
 
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