Fusilier Unit appearance in Civ7

What should Fusilier unit looks like?

  • 1. Malburian

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  • 2. Mid 18th Century

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  • 3. French Revolutionary War

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  • 4. 1800s (Napoleonics - Crimean War)

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Q: What are 'Fusiliers'?
A: Infantry units armed with smoothbore flintlick musket (fusils) that can have bayonet attachments for melee combat against any kind of melee attacks. And thus the first 'universal' footsloggers. So often referred to as Line Infantry as well due to the use of linear volleys which had since been developed with Matchlock musketry (but matchlock musketeers had to be spaced one or a few paces away so to prevent dangling hot match chord dancing wildly and hit another man's bandoliers (which is very dangerous) but Fusiliers were more universal than that, particularly that one Infantry regiment can also have 'light' company/platoon that doesn't neccessary adhere to rigid formations but instead performs recon and skirmishing missions. In addition, the term lasts longer and could also referred to regular infantry armed with service rifles as well (1850s - 1900s 'Riflemen' in previous Civ games until VI)
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Q: When did this unit first appeared?
A: 1670-1680 with France being the first country to have such units. initially as artillery escort unit (again. matchlock weapons aren't really safe when guarding artillery and gunpowder magazines) and as musketeers weapons for Pike and Shot formation. Soon enough the introduction of bayonets made pike obsolete
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Q: What should they look like?
A: There are roughtly three options.
1. Malburian (When this unit first appeared) + cravats + tricorne.
2. Mid 18th Century (Seven Years War - War of American Independence) (overcoat frocks with folding collars) + tricornes
3. French Revolutionary war (overcoat with standing collars instead of foldings + tricornes or bicornes)
4. 1800s+ "Napoleonics to Crimean Wars" (Tailcoat with standing collars and facings similiar to Option 3 but with visored Shako)
Q: What about cultural variants?
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The term "Line Infantry" in my eyes has two different kinds of interpreting:

a) It could be musket armed infantry, using the line formation as its standard tactical formation.
b) According to the German wikipedia in the Napoleonic era, the term was no longer used with the focus on its tactical formation, but for separating the "normal" infantry (Infanterie de ligne) from the guards (Infanterie de la Garde impériale) and from the light infantry (Infanterie légère).

In 1804 the Guard numbered 8,000 men. By the time of Napoleon's invasion of Russia in 1812, it had swelled to just under 100,000 men (Old Guard, Middle Guard and Young Guard). The term line infantry here was used to separate the broad mass of the infantry from the guard infantry and the light infantry.
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As the different interpretation of the term "line infantry" in the Napoleonic era offers the opportunity to give the "18th century style infantry" and the early 19th century style infantry and the mid 19th century style infantry different memorable names, I prefer the names Fusilier (18th century) => line Infantry (early 19th century) => Riflemen (mid 19th century) in my Civ 3 mod CCM.
 
^ To you what made the difference between Fusilier and Line Infantry even if the two foot soldiers are exactly the same except uniforms which were based on era the respective unit is set in?
In Civ6 modding there's a mod that distinct even Musketman -> Fusilier , -> Line Infantry, and even with Renaissance Pikemen, -> 'Late Pikeman' -> Foot Guards. The only differences are the graphical representations where Musketmen were early renaissance, Fusiliers are Enlightenment Era (18c) and Line Infantry is Napoleonics - Crimean War. A unit F'xis is intended to replace Rifleman in previous games.
 
- 16th century, Arquebusier with Morion
- 17th century, Musketeer with Cavalier hat
- 18th century, Fusilier with Tricorn
- 19th century, Rifleman with Shako

While 20/21th century "meele" could be named by their role like Shock/Assault Infantry/Trooper, etc. By the way 20th century infantry units make little sense being separated from Machine guns and portable AT weapons, just imagine a full army of Bazooka infantry!?
 
While 20/21th century "meele" could be named by their role like Shock/Assault Infantry/Trooper, etc. By the way 20th century infantry units make little sense being separated from Machine guns and portable AT weapons, just imagine a full army of Bazooka infantry!?
^ This is what I HATE most about Civ6. Tactical units in Strategic gameplay. And this is a very reason why I joined Civ6 Modding community here.
 
^ To you what made the difference between Fusilier and Line Infantry even if the two foot soldiers are exactly the same except uniforms which were based on era the respective unit is set in?
Using the second interpretation for line Infantry they are not the same units in my mod. The Line Infantry has better stats as they were able to use improved tactics and the weapons from 18th to 19th century did improve, too.
In Civ6 modding there's a mod that distinct even Musketman -> Fusilier , -> Line Infantry, The only differences are the graphical representations where Musketmen were early renaissance, Fusiliers are Enlightenment Era (18c) and Line Infantry is Napoleonics - Crimean War. A unit F'xis is intended to replace Rifleman in previous games.
In CCM the complete line here is Musketman => Musketeer => Fusilier (earlier named by me Musket Infantry) => Line Infantry (in the Napoleonic sense) => Riflemen => WW1 Infantry => WW2 Infantry and so on. It is nice that this mod seems to have the same intensions I had in a time, when Civ 6 even did not exist. :)
 
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