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[ssjos]

Hmm I played a game that went quite ok. I finished apostic palace by about 300 AD, and all other civs were infected.

However, When the inital vote came on I switched my religon to no state religon or something, and the result was that no Apostic Palace Resident was elected at all. Needless to say this totally messed up my game and no victory vote was possible. By the time the second vote for Apostic palace resident came around it was 1100 AD and I could not get majority on victory vote.

Anyone know what may have gone wrong? On which turn (after the completion of AP) can you switch religon without messing things up?
What is the vote schedule after AP is complete?

 

[HolyHandGrenade]

Hmm I played a game that went quite ok. I finished apostic palace by about 300 AD, and all other civs were infected.

However, When the inital vote came on I switched my religon to no state religon or something, and the result was that no Apostic Palace Resident was elected at all. Needless to say this totally messed up my game and no victory vote was possible. By the time the second vote for Apostic palace resident came around it was 1100 AD and I could not get majority on victory vote.

Anyone know what may have gone wrong? On which turn (after the completion of AP) can you switch religon without messing things up?
What is the vote schedule after AP is complete?

As far as I remember you should wait for "no religion" until after the initial vote results show up.

 

[bestje]

this happened to me once as well, its irritating but if you wait till the results are in before switching its ok after that

 

[WilliamOfOrange]

Had a pretty sweet game, but the date of 16xx can and will be beaten. I had a continent with Izzy, Ramses and Asoka. I managed quite a few firsts: 1st religion founded, Oracle, Music, Liberalism, Economics (was a tie, but I got it). The EPs really help you with races.

I also founded Monotheism, Col, Theology and Philosophy - missing out on DR by a few turns, but I only tried when I thought I could switch and beat the AI...I could have had it way back.....and after losing both the SM and Versailles races to that Wonder monster Ramses, I may go for it with the GPs next time.

I had to gift missionaries to all the other guys. First one failed Arabia. The second boat should have been send MUCH sooner. I really didn't rush for Astronomy much, so I know I can do better. It's really not that bad, it's likely that you can get everyone on your continent with the same religion. I built the AP as a Christian but got Spain and Egypt to be Jewish. I even converted Asoka from his Buddism, but not until after a diplo penalty for not switching to his earlier. If you can get Ramses on your land mass, you should get a huge bonus for OR....he loves it! I had to turn down Izzy a few times with her Theocracy, but I did do another switch she asked and give in to a few demands. I later signed a DP with her.

Monty start on an island of his own, so that made for a very peaceful game over all. I am sure next time will be different.

 

[Harbourboy]

I finally managed to do this on my 7th attempt. 1980AD for me, but I'm really not sure I have got the hang of this religious victory condition.

 

[Grifftavian]

I've installed the 3.17 patch. Does that invalidate any games submitted with the 3.13.001 HOF Mod

 

[bestje]

yes I think the mod won't work with it properly

 

[ssjos]

Played with a terrible hangover but I manged to win by 960 AD
It was the second vote that yielded my win. I had +5 with Asaoka and pleased, so I thought he would vote for me and I spread to some of his cities. Then he abstained

Anyone know what the trigger for having the AI voteing for you is? Second vote I was +8 and pleased with Asaoka and then he voted for me.

 

[bestje]

usually they only ever vote for me at friendly

 

[Grifftavian]

yes I think the mod won't work with it properly

Thanks Bestje; I tried loading the HOF mod and starting this game, but it crashed, so I guess the 3.17 patch nerfed the HOF Mod I guess they'll be updating the HOF mod soon to make it compatible with the 3.17 patch.

Noob question for future reference: How do you gift units/missionaries to the heathens? I set up a test game with the 3.17 patch, and tried to give a christian missionary to Budda-loving Isabella, but couldn't figure out how to do it. Isabella was/is annoyed with me (usually happens every game, not unusual) Do I need to be on better terms with the AI civs?

 

[Blunt_Axe]

How do you gift units/missionaries to the heathens?

You will need to sign open borders with the heathen, then move the missionary into their territory and hit the gift unit button, which is a unt action button with the little gift wrapped present on it...

 

[Grifftavian]

Thanks Blunt Axe! I didn't have the open borders treaty, since Isabella was annoyed with me. Never noticed the gift box before, shows I never gave units away before I guess that's why the Caravels are needed; get into their territory without OB treaty and then gift the missionary????

 

[Blunt_Axe]

I guess that's why the Caravels are needed; get into their territory without OB treaty and then gift the missionary????

I have never tried this before so i don't know if it would work, can someone help here? I assume that you would need to get the missionary on land first?

 

[WilliamOfOrange]

I believe that is correct. You still need OBs to get the missionary on land.

 

[Harbourboy]

Yes, you need OB so the caravel freedom of movement is not that relevant.

 

[ssjos]

I dont get it, I just had another game where I was not allowed to become the president.

The AP was finished and I voted my self for president, however, the votes were never counted and time just went on without anyone being elected.

This time I did not switch religon after AP was built. Anyone know what is causing this?

 

[HolyHandGrenade]

I dont get it, I just had another game where I was not allowed to become the president.

The AP was finished and I voted my self for president, however, the votes were never counted and time just went on without anyone being elected.

This time I did not switch religon after AP was built. Anyone know what is causing this?

I assume you currently own more than 75% of "AP-religion" votes. Because you are the owner of the AP, your votes are counting twice. So switch to "no religion" (this halfes your votes), wait some turns until the Diplomatic vote comes in, and after voting for yourself, switch to the AP-religion in the same turn.

The 2nd possible reason could be that not all opponents have at least one citiy with the AP-religion. Each civ, even if vassalized, must have at least one city with the AP-religion to enable AP-diplomatic.

 

[bestje]

that doesn't sound like what he's asking. I've had this happen to me once and I put it down to the religion switch but as you say you didn't do this, i'm not sure.

Under the resolutions tab does it say who the resident is?
Otherwise either restart or wait for the next election (i think its something like 14 turns)

 

[ssjos]

that doesn't sound like what he's asking. I've had this happen to me once and I put it down to the religion switch but as you say you didn't do this, i'm not sure.

Under the resolutions tab does it say who the resident is?
Otherwise either restart or wait for the next election (i think its something like 14 turns)

It didnt say that anyone was president, and the screen with the votes counted never came up

Anyhow I dunno... I may have spread my religon to a new AI on the turn in question if this can have an effect?

I was also at war with one AI on the turn in question.

 

[Conquistador 63]

I'm not playing this gauntlet, but the exact same thing happened to me in a GOTM. I think this victory condition is plagued with bugs - maybe they fixed it in the last patch?