G-Minor LXXI

I can't find it anywhere, so I'll just ask here:
Is it allowed or disallowed to have raging barbarians on when doing gauntlet?
 
If I recall, if it's not specified, then it's allowed. For example, OCC is allowed implicitly because it's not explicitly disallowed. So I would assume raging barbs is allowed.
 
Finished a bit out of the medals but ran a decent turn 175 victory with Korea. The whole "rerolling is easy" vibe some posts have is not the case here, as I was shuffled lousy sea maps at least half the time and was given decent maps with nearby mountain starts maybe 5% of my tries? 3 or 4 of 50 or so? About half the rolls with Start Bias, about half without.

Tried the 3 or 4 decent maps that had mountains. Twice tried the hybrid Liberty/Tradition approach, and I think it doesn't suit Korea so well [unless you have, say, a coastal mountain Petra start ;) ], particularly if there are no cultural CS nearby. You get early happiness issues, if you try for a fast 4 cities your neighbors tend to get DOW-style POed, and I couldn't keep from stalling in policies in the middle of the Tradition tree. Inhibited growth enough to hurt superfast science acquisition.

The turn 175 Korea victory was a 4 city Tradition to Rationalism policy path, with only 2 mountain cities. Cities were on a relatively crowded continent, but there were 2 keys: Managed to get a 2nd city mediocre Petra (not an ideal Petra city but OK) and a city next to Mt. Kailash for faith. Faith for GS (and 1 GE for the Hubble) was incredibly useful. The Petra allowed my 2nd city to build some key wonders and be the secondary spaceship builder. Went freedom as there was no coal and had good cashflow. Did it without building a factory. Was selling everything I owned to scrape up the last few bucks for the last spaceship part.

Basically, I think if I could have had a slightly less crowded continent [for a 5th city and/or more workable hexes for my 4 cities], or more than 2 mountain cities, I could have finished in the 160's. Korea definitely rocks the science game. I think Tradition/Freedom can be superpowerful for them.

Haven't seen the results yet, but congrats to Klaskeren on his excellent finish. Yes, an ideal map in so many ways, but you still have to play it very well to get such a great time.
 
Results:

G-Minor LXXI - Science, King, Standard, Shuffle, Quick, Any Leader
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1st klaskeren - 1675 AD T-160
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2nd playshogi - 1685 AD T-162
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3rd dinanipedro - 1735 AD T-172

Congratulations!
 
wow playshogi, that was close :D You took 9 hours to complete the game??? I wonder why it was so long, i thought i took a long time with my game at 3 hours.
Secondly, what was your spain start like? Maybe i was wrong about spain not being as strong as i expected, when i played spain i juts didnt seem to get good enough starts.

anyway thanks for the gauntlet guys, see you in the next one!
 
will upload my korea game on video tonight for those who are interrested, though with no commentary this time im afraid, was listening to music
 
I'm quite surprised that t196 was the best time put in for Nebby. That was my first attempt at this gauntlet. (And my only attempt with Babs)

Babylon should have been in the medals at least... I wonder if people in the thread were just very influenced by all the talk about Korea and didn't even bother to try Babylon? I expected at least a t170 finish in there somewhere. Crazy.
 
Congrats klaskeren,are you by any chance army general in real life?Hehe.Also forgot to ask you before,noticed how you didn't build wonders great library and temple of artemis,did you deliberately skipped them or other civ build them before?I could understood how you skipped great library to postpone first great scientist,tho not building temple of artemis doesn't have much sense.

Also i find it interesting how Poland ranked third,since i had hunch how you could benefit from it's free policy thing by having faster science policies,but didn't tried it yet.
 
I'm quite surprised that t196 was the best time put in for Nebby. That was my first attempt at this gauntlet. (And my only attempt with Babs)

Babylon should have been in the medals at least... I wonder if people in the thread were just very influenced by all the talk about Korea and didn't even bother to try Babylon? I expected at least a t170 finish in there somewhere. Crazy.
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I tried them but since was growing very slow so it was too boring to continue to play so i gave up.I think they cant match spain/korea doubled resources just by having faster GS.
 
All of my tries were with Babylon; none of them satisfactory. Before going to bed one night I had a "urge" to try Spain and discovered the GBR and Mt. K. before turn 10! So I was able to buy 2 settlers and 2 workers some tiles and a warrior to escort 1 settler. My religion was One With Nature, Mosques, Tithe, Divine Inspiration and Holy Orders. It was an archipelago map and I killed off Morocco who also started on my island. I had a lot of lucky breaks, the turn after the war ended, I met the next AI. The turn before I discovered Printing Press (turn 82) the last 2 AI showed up. I had 3 salt and 3 silver which with 9 gold per turn I was able to trade for 3 different lux and triggered WLTKD in all cities on turn 83. Labs were up by T124. Had coal and aluminum in my lands, but only 3 coal, so 1 city never got a factory and I could not build any observatories. Needless to say I botched the endgame horribly. I should have burned a scientist early to get plastics with the rationalism finisher and save Oxford for Nano; labs would have been built much sooner. Didn't build shrines and temples everywhere, neglected religious CS, and overlooked Arabia converting my cities, so I lost a lot of faith per turn. I popped too many great engineers at the end and didn't even save 2 for the last part which cost me the gold medal!
 
I tried Spain, Bab, Korea, Shoshones, Egypt, Austria, Poland and maybe others. Spain allow God start. One game with salt start and Eldorado, I struggled with unhappinnes with rush buy 2 settlers and workers. Result were between 180 to 200. My mistakes were early improvements (Thanks Klaskeren for your recent guide), and bad management between Éducation and Public school. Also, I pick order as no-brainer. Liberty, after all, could be better in some games. Good job guys.
 
crocivfanatic said:
Also i find it interesting how Poland ranked third
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me too!

http://i.imgur.com/r2iZT4y.jpg

second expo had lake victoria, included spain as opponent for greater chance to get NW in vicinity, reroll about 6-7 times though to get pangeaea and only planted one GS to save rest for bulbing.

didn't get alu or coal, 2 settlers planted though late game for resources.

fun gauntlet
 
klaskeren said:
will upload my korea game on video tonight for those who are interrested, though with no commentary this time im afraid, was listening to music
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any link for this already?
 
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