Game Starts on July 23rd???

[eyrei]

This solution still slams the door squarely shut on any new player who wishes to participate in the infancy of our nation.

Speak so highly of wanting high participation then move forward with an oligarchy first term, our most important term.

When new players come to the forum and find there isn't actually a game, they are very likely to choose not to participate as well.

 

[Cheetah]

How about using the DGIII constitution, but with DGI/II Judiciary?

 

[Immortal]

Irrelevent, there WILL be a game eventually. Within a matter of weeks.

There will not be a second chance for them to be among the first leaders of demogame 5. What precidence does this set for the terms after the first one? any new player would automatically be of the mindset "well it seems as though the veterans get all the positions" and they will leave.

Still no reply about the new forums yet...

 

[Ankka]

But don't the veterans usually get most of the positions?


I am with Cheetah and donsig on the constitution talks.

 

[Immortal]

But don't the veterans usually get most of the positions?

Do new players get the chance to get ANY under this system of "leaders will make the constitution"?

I dont care who is elected at the end of the cycle, I care about new players having the CHANCE to be elected.

 

[Noldodan]

Do new players get the chance to get ANY under this system of "leaders will make the constitution"?

I dont care who is elected at the end of the cycle, I care about new players having the CHANCE to be elected.

And why should new players have any less of a chance of being elected? It's not like we're set on only veterans getting a chance to help make the constitution.

 

[Immortal]

Would you....as a new player, and witnessing the last 2 months of deadlock, really want to be involved in the process?

Would you really believe yourself familiar enough with the 4 law structures we've had?

 

[Noldodan]

Would you....as a new player, and witnessing the last 2 months of deadlock, really want to be involved in the process?

Would you really believe yourself familiar enough with the 4 law structures we've had?

Would you....as a new play, and witnessing the last two months of deadlock, hope to end it?

Does it really matter how familiar you are with the previous laws?

 

[eyrei]

Immortal, you are missing the point, I think. What I proposed was that the leaders have to work on the constitution. Anyone else who wishes to participate is free to do so, and eventually the whole thing will be voted on by the citizens anyway, so its hardly an oligarchy.

And regarding new players not wanting to be involved in the process, I think that is already the case. Most will probably just want it to end so the game can start.

 

[Immortal]

Removed

Whatever...no sense arguing, wont make a difference.

 

[Cyc]

Even with the proposal Octavian suggested for drawing up a Constitution, there was a way for new players to give input. That plan had an elected committee doing the work. With eyrei's plan the elected commitee is the newly elected Government, who have a responsibility to lead the nation. This eliminates an extra election. Plus it identifies the people who will be responsible for getting their act together and rewards them with a Leadership position at the same time. I don't really see a problem here, Immortal. If new players want to be a Leader, they will sign up. If they don't, they won't.

 

[BCLG100]

Were some people not moaning a few days ago that the moderators were not having a big enough influence on the game, well here they are theyve made their decsion, its not changing so DEAL with it finish the rules within the allotted time, it will speed us up if we care that much, if we dont manage to finish discussions at least within this time it obviously didnt mater that much.

 

[Sarevok]

Were some people not moaning a few days ago that the moderators were not having a big enough influence on the game, well here they are theyve made their decsion, its not changing so DEAL with it finish the rules within the allotted time, it will speed us up if we care that much, if we dont manage to finish discussions at least within this time it obviously didnt mater that much.

This is NOT The type of influence I had in mind.

 

[Black_Hole]

wow... I just got back from my vacation, and I am sorta clueless
but from what I see, is there wasnt a long enough notice...

 

[Chieftess]

There was a notice early this month when I said that if this buero-fest threatens to go into the 3rd month, then the will would be starting ASAP, and we can finish up while we play. We did the same in DG1/2. Rik and I both made this decision.

 

[blackheart]

Why don't we do that then Chieftess? Just ratify and make laws as the game progresses and as the needs for them rises.

 

[Immortal]

Chieftess your post is slightly out of date due to the fact that your elections will be being conducted at the same time as the expiration of my constitutional polls. It has been, and always will be a running process of adapting laws but due to a number of posters literally cannon-balling the constitution into completion in the last 48 hours, it will be ready by the end of elections.