GarretSidzaka Graphics for SMAC

[GarretSidzaka]

Hey maniac here is that hybrid forest:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=9492

here is that kelp:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=9456

here is some space units:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5422
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4230
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4290

 

[Maniac]

Awesome!!!

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=213983&d=1242066484

 

[rocklikeafool]

Nice. Very nice. Are these gonna be in the next patch?

 

[GarretSidzaka]

hey maniac, you could also request artwork from me right here. im getting excited about this mod now

 

[Maniac]

Do you have any button creation or gamefont.tga skills?

 

[GarretSidzaka]

totally i can even edit the gameforts.tga and give custom religions and stuff

but remember just one request at a time

 

[rockinroger]

Nice work GarretSidzaka, what do i do with the fungus, is that a separate feature or is it pulled automatically with the leafy01-01.....,etc.?

 

[GarretSidzaka]

it is graphically treeleafy feature, so you would use this art entry for any custom XML stuff

 

[Maniac]

Nice work GarretSidzaka, what do i do with the fungus, is that a separate feature or is it pulled automatically with the leafy01-01.....,etc.?

Hey I see you're a Visa member. I believe your mod has sea bases, is that correct? I'm wondering, does the AI build sea bases and sea terrain improvements in your mod? The AI doesn't in Planetfall at the moment, so it would be neat to know how to make them do so.

it is graphically treeleafy feature, so you would use this art entry for any custom XML stuff

Does fungus01_01.nif need to stay present in the Hybrid Forest folder for the feature graphics to work?
(Every bit helps to keep the mod's download size down )

totally i can even edit the gameforts.tga and give custom religions and stuff

but remember just one request at a time

Thanks!

There's a bunch of stuff that could be done. I've attached a list at the end of this post. There's even much more than that list which could be done. But I'm a gameplay designer, no graphical artist. So while I see the need for new graphics on many places, I have often no inspiration myself how they could/should looke like.

Anyway, if I had to pick one thing off this list, perhaps the specialist buttons? (I heard editing gamefont.tga is much harder, so start with the 'simple' things I guess?)

Btw, since you didn't seem to know how Kelp looks and were unfamiliar with the Pholus Mutagen secret project movie, I'm wondering. Do you own SMAC, or did you used to be a SMAC player?

If you don't, I guess you don't have any original SMAC graphical files, or for instance don't know what I mean with 'Cult pink'?


* Buttons - Specialists

Spoiler :

Buttons needed for: Empath, Engineer (+ Great Specialist), Merchant (+...), Chaplain, Librarian

For the normal specialists the background should be either transparent, or the same as in SMAC (eg see the Empath). For Great Specialists the usual star should be added to the left upper corner.

Empath - same as in SMAC
Engineer - as the Engineer in snipperrabbitt!!'s (sn!'s) "new set of specialists", but without the yellow/golden-striped background. Transparent background needed instead.
Merchant - no preference here; many suggestions have been made already, but none gave me a "That's it!" feeling
Chaplain - as the Chaplain in snipperrabbitt!!'s (sn!'s) "new set of specialists", but without the yellow/golden-striped background.
Librarian - as the Librarian in snipperrabbitt!!'s (sn!'s) "new set of specialists", but without the yellow/golden-striped background.

Unfortunately these buttons as displayed on the pics below were AFAIK never made available for download.

* Gamefont.tga - New "partly eaten bread leaf" icon needed

Spoiler :

A replacement for the "partly eaten bread leaf" which represents food consumption would be neat. Possibility could be the apple with a red minus in the upper left corner of the picture below.

* GameFont.tga - Planet icon

Spoiler :

Two new icons should be added to GameFont.tga and GameFont_75.tga, representing positive Planet and negative Planet.

Positive Planet = green heart (think of the Centauri Empathy tech icon)
Negative Planet = red heart

I believe they should be added to the right of the Power icon in the lower right corner.

* Gamefont.tga - Flowering Counter icon

Spoiler :

Suggestion for icon to use: this recoloured in Cult-pink/purple and (a shrunked version of course) to be put somewhere* in Gamefont.tga.
I believe they should be added to the right of the Power icon in the lower right corner. Or if there's no place there anymore because of the Planet icons, under the happy face?

* Cybernetic Consciousness button and gamefont.tga icon

Spoiler :

As the title says, what would be needed is:
1) a button
2) put in gamefont.tga as an icon replacing the Judaism religion

I hope this is a good enough source material picture:
http://apolyton.net/smac/X/Images/i.shtml?logo_cyborgs800.jpg

* Voice of Planet button and gamefont.tga icon

Spoiler :

As the title says, what would be needed is:
1) a button
2) put in gamefont.tga as an icon replacing the Hinduism religion

I hope this is a good enough source material picture:
http://apolyton.net/smac/X/Images/i.shtml?logo_cult800.jpg

 

[GarretSidzaka]

Does fungus01_01.nif need to stay present in the Hybrid Forest folder for the feature graphics to work?
(Every bit helps to keep the mod's download size down )

i dont think so, all you should keep are the tree leafys

Thanks!

There's a bunch of stuff that could be done. I've attached a list at the end of this post. There's even much more than that list which could be done. But I'm a gameplay designer, no graphical artist. So while I see the need for new graphics on many places, I have often no inspiration myself how they could/should looke like.

Anyway, if I had to pick one thing off this list, perhaps the specialist buttons? (I heard editing gamefont.tga is much harder, so start with the 'simple' things I guess?)

Btw, since you didn't seem to know how Kelp looks and were unfamiliar with the Pholus Mutagen secret project movie, I'm wondering. Do you own SMAC, or did you used to be a SMAC player?

If you don't, I guess you don't have any original SMAC graphical files, or for instance don't know what I mean with 'Cult pink'?

im assuming cult pink has to do with that horid pink on all the old texture files?

btw: i am a SMAC-tard. i have beaten smac and wont play it again until this mod is done

* Buttons - Specialists

ok i like this task this will be my first. give me some time to do it though and never ever feel afraid to motivate me via PM or beatdownstick.

* Gamefont.tga - New "partly eaten bread leaf" icon needed

cool. i will come up with something nice for this soon.

* Gamefont.tga - Flowering Counter icon

how about the negative heard be broken too
we cant greatly customize the gamefont file without at least SDK im sure. but im sure i can replace the power sign with something

* Cybernetic Consciousness button and gamefont.tga icon

easy

* Voice of Planet button and gamefont.tga icon

also easy. i will check these other things later, i will start at the top of the list for now

 

[rockinroger]

@Maniac:
Yes the Ai builds sea cities and tunnels in ViSA. We borrowed the code from Genetic Era mod, and Vince worked in the SDK to make the AI functional also. You can check our code no problem.

 

[GarretSidzaka]

@Maniac:
Yes the Ai builds sea cities and tunnels in ViSA. We borrowed the code from Genetic Era mod, and Vince worked in the SDK to make the AI functional also. You can check our code no problem.

that is perfect for SMAC!!!!

 

[Maniac]

im assuming cult pink has to do with that horid pink on all the old texture files?

I mean the pink/purple faction colour of the Cult of Planet. It can be found in the lower left corner of fungboy.pcx

how about the negative heard be broken too

lol sure if you want to.

we cant greatly customize the gamefont file without at least SDK im sure. but im sure i can replace the power sign with something

I think it's possible to add and use new icons to the game as long as they're defined in the SDK and put on the right place in gamefont.tga. But I could ask an SDKer first to be absolutely sure.

Btw, the mod already includes a gamefont.tga (and _75). Do you have them, or shall I attach them here?

@Maniac:
Yes the Ai builds sea cities and tunnels in ViSA. We borrowed the code from Genetic Era mod, and Vince worked in the SDK to make the AI functional also. You can check our code no problem.

That's great!
Are the uncompiled SDK files included in the ViSa download?
Or even better, is there perhaps a download of only the SDK files?
(Yeah I know I'm pushing my luck here, but I can only download 10 GB per month, and I have to restrain myself to stay under it all the time. )

 

[rockinroger]

@Maniac here i zipped the visa sdk, does that help you out? Also its hosted on Sourceforge in a svn repository. You would need a Subversion net client, like Tortoise svn, but i dont know if that will help you or not.

 

[Maniac]

Thanks for the files! Why are there two though? Vanilla and Warlords or so?

As I'm not an SDKer myself, I can't really judge myself if it will help us out. I am sure it will though.

 

[rocklikeafool]

Wow, I jus looked at Maniac's graphics there. Those all look really cool. I'm not too pumped bout the suggested colors for the flowerin counter icon. I'd use somethin like green or red. I really like the Cybernetic Consciousness icon (or the startin point icon anyway). The Voice of the Planet icon is wicked awesome. Keep up the good work, ppl.