General QSC Scoring updates - Wonders, GLs and Techs

[Bamspeedy]

According to the editor, the cost values are Polytheism (12) and Monarchy (24) and Republic (28). Now, I don't know the formula well enough to figure out how much gold that equates to in this map, but here is how I'm looking at it:

Polytheism + Monarchy is a cost factor of 36, so that is 28.5% more than just getting Republic. According to Cracker's values of techs, Polytheism + Monarchy is worth only 19.3% more. That's nearly a 10% difference, and after you add the horseback riding points onto my score, you'll see that there was less than 10% difference between our scores (actually about a 2% difference).

I don't mean to sound like I think I got cheated out of an award or anything, I'm not worried about the 'techmonger's award, I'm happy enough with the 'cramus maximus' award. And you deserve the award, Yndy, and the scoring of techs was clearly stated beforehand, and you worked that to your advantage (or your strategy worked nicely with it).

I'm just saying it doesn't seem right that you are being penalized for making a move that has good, solid reasoning behind it, and your gold is being de-valued because you choose to pick a different tech.

 

[Ribannah]

Originally posted by Yndy
Until now I thought that the Pyramids has the largest single influence towards QSC score and anyone building it would rank so much higher.

It has, if you are so lucky that you can create it with the use of a Great Leader.

Building the Pyramids 'by hand' is rather a huge investment for the rest of the game, as it will typically be completed only shortly before (or even after) 1000 BC.
Instead, you could have a lot more cities early on.
The investment often pays off in the end, but in most situations it is likely to somewhat reduce the QSC score.

Regarding how the techs are valued, I agree with Bamspeedy that they, too, should reflect the cost involved in researching them. That would not stop me from researching The Republic asap anyway though (and then gift it to the AI so they can research something else AND generate some cash for me, if I'm going for fast research).

 

[Bamspeedy]

I figured some interesting things out here. If you use Grey Fox's Tech Calculator:
Tech Calculator

For Regent Level, Large map

Polytheism: 384
Monarchy: 768
Republic: 896

I had polytheism and 624 gold invested in Monarchy.
Yndy had Republic and 37 gold invested in some other tech.

I invested: 384+624=1008 gold
Yndy invested: 896+37=933 gold

So instead of me scoring 75 more points, I lost by 95 points (when the horseback riding gets added back onto my score).

 

[cracker]

I am going to go ahead an close this thread as obsolete and direct all discussion forward to the Scoring System Changes discussion dated April 22, 2003:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51230