Good whipping guide/information?
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oddball723
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at it's simplest.
whipping requires the slavery civ. and for you to have adopted it.
then... you can "whip" your citizens into rushing an item to completion.
doing so... kills off some civies and gives unhappiness for a certain number of turns to that city.
aside from that i don't have many specifics. i read a really good post on this game aspect once. but it was way too insanely micromanaged to be anything i'd use. but it was along the lines of a chop/don't chop and or civ polotics to use post.
basically... the really slick usage of this ability is to time it with a city's growth, so that the penalty to growth is lessend. using a granary and the ping of growth to lessen the shock to the city of whipping them into doing things.
there's also a common tactic of plopping the shakespeare theatre in a town...and whipping the hell out of that particular town. logic being. with that wonder...no one gets sad. so whipping them endlessly creates no unhappiness.
in my own personal experience. i enjoy using this civic. i've no idea if this is a good way to play or not. but i tend to be an amoeba sprawling type player and normally do a lot of early-mid game warring. and i can tell ya. whipping 20-30 cities for military can turn the tide of a war. especially when you can whip a city wall or something for a captured city while your new units pour in from your exisiting cities.
i'm fairly certain more hammer intensive buildings or units kill off more citizens to complete them. and weak cities can't be whipped unless they can sustain the loss of people needed to whip something to completion.
the ability to do the whipping is indicated by a little arrow thingie that on the icon box when you highlight a city.
like i said i love this. i also sometimes use the draft option. i dunno. i don't like being a warmonger but if some dinky nation is messing with me. i want to drum up an army quickly. attack, and then maybe leapfrog a couple city improvements to make up for the war... and then go back to being peaceful. there's little else that can do this for me. ...across all my cities. so quickly.
but... i realize this post provides little in the way of actual info.
cheers
-Stephen
ps... it's also just fun to know you're killing your own people(i used to love the aspect in civ II of starving my citizens to make them happier) but i don't know what that says about me as a person. hehe
whipping requires the slavery civ. and for you to have adopted it.
then... you can "whip" your citizens into rushing an item to completion.
doing so... kills off some civies and gives unhappiness for a certain number of turns to that city.
aside from that i don't have many specifics. i read a really good post on this game aspect once. but it was way too insanely micromanaged to be anything i'd use. but it was along the lines of a chop/don't chop and or civ polotics to use post.
basically... the really slick usage of this ability is to time it with a city's growth, so that the penalty to growth is lessend. using a granary and the ping of growth to lessen the shock to the city of whipping them into doing things.
there's also a common tactic of plopping the shakespeare theatre in a town...and whipping the hell out of that particular town. logic being. with that wonder...no one gets sad. so whipping them endlessly creates no unhappiness.
in my own personal experience. i enjoy using this civic. i've no idea if this is a good way to play or not. but i tend to be an amoeba sprawling type player and normally do a lot of early-mid game warring. and i can tell ya. whipping 20-30 cities for military can turn the tide of a war. especially when you can whip a city wall or something for a captured city while your new units pour in from your exisiting cities.
i'm fairly certain more hammer intensive buildings or units kill off more citizens to complete them. and weak cities can't be whipped unless they can sustain the loss of people needed to whip something to completion.
the ability to do the whipping is indicated by a little arrow thingie that on the icon box when you highlight a city.
like i said i love this. i also sometimes use the draft option. i dunno. i don't like being a warmonger but if some dinky nation is messing with me. i want to drum up an army quickly. attack, and then maybe leapfrog a couple city improvements to make up for the war... and then go back to being peaceful. there's little else that can do this for me. ...across all my cities. so quickly.
but... i realize this post provides little in the way of actual info.
cheers
-Stephen
ps... it's also just fun to know you're killing your own people(i used to love the aspect in civ II of starving my citizens to make them happier) but i don't know what that says about me as a person. hehe
Sisiutil
All Leader Challenger
Check this article in the War Academy:
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy/micromanagement.php
Scroll down to the section titled "Whip 'til your hands bleed".
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy/micromanagement.php
Scroll down to the section titled "Whip 'til your hands bleed".
Instant_Cereal
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The Globe Theater is better with nationalism than slavery.
OneBinary
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That was a mediocre article at best. The entire basis of that section is based on a bug or exploit. I assume the exploit no longer exists in Warlords 2.08, and if it does, I don't way to play my games by making use of an exploit, because a) when it's fixed, you can't use it anymore, and b) this does not necessarily improve a person's play. (I'm just referring to the number of hammers obtained by a whip, not the whip itselfSisiutil said:Check this article in the War Academy:
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy/micromanagement.php
Scroll down to the section titled "Whip 'til your hands bleed".
)But it was a little helpful, so thank you. I think I did obtain enough basic strategy from that article to assist me in playing with whipping in my next game.
Jet
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* Does Slavery Hurt My Game? in this forum is pretty good.
* Is slavery broken? Or is just the 2 pop whip trick? http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1594 at realmsbeyond.net is pretty good
* The Inner Mechanics of Food [etc] http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=178491 might help.
* In Warlords slavery article? in this forum VoiceOfUnreason said he was planning to write one in a couple weeks or so.
* Is slavery broken? Or is just the 2 pop whip trick? http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1594 at realmsbeyond.net is pretty good
* The Inner Mechanics of Food [etc] http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=178491 might help.
* In Warlords slavery article? in this forum VoiceOfUnreason said he was planning to write one in a couple weeks or so.
VoiceOfUnreason
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Jet said:
Vocum Sineratio: The Whip
Still just a draft, yadda yadda. Feeback welcome. Oh, and thanks for pulling up those links, Jet - I'll be borrowing them for the bibiography later.
