GOTM 156 Spoiler

[Major Advantage]

My game went on pretty calm and unspectacular:

1570 MassP->Atomic Theory; Alpine built, grabs barb leader in India for 100g
1590 A.T.->Mach. Tools
1610 MT->Mini; 250g from Rome
1630 Mini->Computers; India begins UN
1640 Offshore Platform
1650 Comp.->Espionage(1508); 200g from Spain, 50 from Persia, 150 from Carth, 100 from India
1660 Science Lab, 976 Beakers done
1670 Esp.->Nucl. Fission; 1st pollution cleared by pre-charged settler
1680 200 from Spain, 250 from Rome, 100 from India
1690 NFiss->N. Power;
1700 Factory
1710 Power->Flight
1720 Nucular Plant; now we have 51 shield surplus
1730 Flight->Radio
1750 Radio->Adv. Flight
1754 Adv. Fl->Laser; Oil-van built, I don't think it is worth to deliver
1758 Laser -> Rocket;
1762 Rocket->Space; Begin wonder
1766 Space->Plastics; Reduce science to 4 t/a
1768 Apollo built
1770 1st structure built, India is about to finish UN, we spend some vans & gold to beat them to it
1772 UN built

Due to the extra expense on UN I wasn't able to build spaceship parts every turn, but none of the AI was a threat, neither for space race, nor for existence.

 

[haleewud]

I am almost done with the game. But here is the next part of my log.

This was a pretty slow period. Movement is pretty slow and there aren't many shields for building stuff. I did build 1 trireme in -500. I took a caravan from Babylon around the spiral to Delhi. I probably should have taken a settler along to get an advanced outpost, but I didn't. When Republic was established, Babylon was only size 2 and supporting 2 settlers. This slowed the growth of Babylon for quite a period of time.

-950 Babylon Beads Van, Mysticism -> Writing, Ellipi founded
-875 Indians develop Masonry
-850 Nineveh and Ur build settlers
-825 Ashur builds settlers, 50g gift from Indians
-725 Exchange maps with Indians
-700 Babylon builds settlers
-625 Writing -> Masonry, Trade with Indians Mysticism -> Masonry, get 50g gift
-600 start Literacy
-575 Ashur builds Settler
-525 Akkad founded
-500 Nineveh builds trireme


stats at -500:
pop.: .14M; cities: 6, techs: 13, gov: Monarchy, gold: 300; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn: 0
units: 4 Settler, 5 Warriors, 1 Trireme, 1 Caravan
wonders: None


Romans: No Contact
Vikings: No Contact
Spanish: No Contact
Persians: No Contact
Carthaginians: No Contact
Indians: No Embassy, Alliance


-475 Indians develop HBR
-425 Babylon builds Settler
-400 Ellipi builds Settler, Uruk founded
-325 Ashur builds Settler
-300 Ur Food Van
-275 Literacy -> Republic
-200 Eridu founded
-125 Nineveh Food van
-75 Ur Food van
-50 Babylon Food van, Samarra founded
-25 Uruk Settler, Republic -> Philosophy, REVOLUTION, Babylon builds Hanging Gardens, Republic established, trireme (near Delhi) attempts water crossing toward Nineveh and survives


stats at +1:
pop.: .35M; cities: 9, techs: 15, gov: Republic, gold: 356; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn: 0
units: 5 Settler, 7 Warriors, 1 Trireme, 1 Caravan
wonders: Hanging Gardens


Romans: No Contact
Vikings: No Contact
Spanish: No Contact
Persians: No Contact
Carthaginians: No Contact
Indians: No Embassy, Alliance


+20 Ashur Food van
+60 Lagash founded
+80 Elipi Food van, Philosophy -> Seafaring -> Math
+100 Uruk Diplomat, Babylon builds Harbor, Babylon settler joins Lagash
+140 Akkad Food van
+180 Math -> Astronomy
+220 Uppsala builds Colossus, Cumae builds Pyramids, Eridu Settler
+240 Lagash builds Settler, Nineveh Food van
+260 Indians develo pConstruction, Ashur Food van, Ur Food Van, Babylon finally reaches size 3 (WLTCD)
+280 Astronomy -> Navigation, Ur builds MPE
+300 Check Foreign Minister Report
Romans: 815g, 8 cities, 15 tech, Republic, (Banking)
Vikings: 563g, 7 cities, 11 tech, Despotism, (HBR)
Spanish: 509g, 6 cities, 11 tech, Despotism, (HBR+IW)
Persians: 488g, 5 cities, 10 tech, Despotism, (HBR+Poly+Wheel)
Carthagians: 543g, 6 cities, 11 tech, Despotism, (Construction+Engineering+HBR+Wheel)
Indians: 363g, 2 cities, 13 tech, Monarchy, (Construction+HBR)
Contact Romans (5): Give Philo, Peace, give WC and Myst, exchange maps
Contact Vikings (4): Give Republic, Peace, give WC and Philo, exchange maps
Contact Spanish (2): Give Myst, Peace, give Republic+Philo+Seafaring, exchange maps
Contact Persians (1): Give Republic, Peace, give Philo and Writing, exchange maps
Contact Carthaginians (0): Give WC, Peace, give Republic+Philo+Seafaring, exchange maps
+320 Babylon Food van, Babylon Beads to Delhi 68
+340 Seville builds LH, Kish founded
+360 Indians acquire Math, Navigation -> Physics
+380 Persians develop IW, Samarra Food van, Nippur founded
+400 Barbs capture Pompeii, Romans develop Construction, Ellipi Food van
+420 Spanish develop Writing, Uruk Food van, Shuruppak founded (first city on the far side of the Indians)
+440 Vikings develop Monarchy, Physics -> Iron Working, Give Spanish Nav, trade Physics -> IW
+460 Start Magnetism, Lagash Settler
+480 Pasargadae builds Oracle, Indians develop Fuedalism
+500

stats at +500:
pop.: 1.31M; cities: 13, techs: 22, gov: Monarchy, gold: 35; trade routes: 0D1F; cost/turn: 1
units: 3 Settler, 1 Warriors, 1 Caravel, 1 Diplomat, 6 Caravan
wonders: HG, MPE


Romans: 905g, 7 cities, 19 tech, Republic, (Banking+Construction), Pyramids
Vikings: 753g, 7 cities, 15 tech, Republic, (HBR), Colossus
Spanish: 601g, 6 cities, 18 tech, Republic, (HBR), LH
Persians: 501g, 5 cities, 14 tech, Republic, (HBR+Poly+Wheel), Oracle
Carthagians: 565g, 6 cities, 15 tech, Republic, (Construction+Engineering+HBR+Wheel)
Indians: 464g, 2 cities, 15 tech, Monarchy, (Construction+Feudalism+HBR)

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Since Inkerman and Major have already submitted and it is highly unlikely that I will be a contender for the green star I decided to post my end game log albeit with a spoiler button.

As usual there were end game hostilities but only by Vikings and Persians who separately attacked me and then allied against me. Indians, Romans, and Spanish remained peaceful and I never got a chance to make actual contact with Carthaginians. I reduced Vikings to two cities near the end and would have wiped them out if the game continued a few more turns.

Despite the limited amount of land this world was larger than I expected. Even in mid game I thought I would be expanding more than I actually did. In 1773, I built a city that finally fully covered the land to the Persian border. There were two half strips worth of wilderness past the other end of the Persian border. Then I had a few cities across the ocean from the Spanish. Near the end of that strip and on the Viking strip which is next to it, there was a huge barbarian uprising consisting of dozens of units. Some reached Aarhus, which I bribed away from Vikings, near the end. Past the Vikings I had a few cities across the ocean from Romans and that was it. The rest was wilderness and rival cities. My estimate is that some 40% of the world's land remained in wilderness at the end.

+1752 Future Tech 1 -> 2. Space race starts with 2 components. Ramsar founded. Domestic deliveries for 98.

Spoiler :

+1754 Future Tech 2 -> Guerrilla warfare. Domestic deliveries for 168, 119.
+1756 Rifleman survives another barbarian attack but dies trying to kill a barbarian artillery. Guerrilla warfare -> Labor Union -> Future Tech 3. Beads to Vikings for 372. Domestic deliveries for 52.
+1758 Persians build Suffrage. Future Tech 3 -> 4. Barbarian fanatic bribed for 41g.
+1760 Persian explorer walks into defenseless Marv and captures it. Thankfully it had no supported units. I get 4 Partisans. Senate hands them cease fire. Future Tech 4 -> 5. 2 barbarian partisans from hut.
+1762 Vikings attack Kaupang and kill a howitzer. Spy foils their espionage attempt. Barbarian partisans leave my explorer alone. Future Tech 5 -> 6 -> 7. Gold to Marv for 96. Marv bribed back for 2x235g. Viking diplomat and wounded crusader bribed for 160 and 262. Mahabad and Khosravi founded.
+1764 Future Tech 7 -> 8. Full space ship launched. Mech Infantry kills approaching Viking cannon. 2 barbarian artillery killed. Barbarian leader for 100g. Sarakhs founded. Viking Aarhus bribed for 350g. Lost spy. T1L2S7
+1765 Persians ally with Vikings and declare war. Future Tech 8 -> 9 -> 10. Barbarian fanatic killed. Silver to Seville for 248. None rifleman from hut. Shirin founded. Domestic deliveries for 192. T2L2S6
+1766 Future Tech 10 -> 11 -> 12. Domestic deliveries for 106, 299, 284. 100g from hut.
+1767 Future Tech 12 -> 13. Domestic deliveries for 168, 87, 142, 343. Beads to Vikings for 276. None fanatic from hut.
+1768 Vikings join the space race. Future Tech 13 -> 14 -> 15. Viking diplomat killed. Kuchaksara founded. Domestic deliveries for 545, 262, 156, 230, 270. Gold to Gordium for 438. UN rushed to beat Persians.
+1769 Indians join the space race. Future Tech 15 -> 16 -> 17. UN built. Domestic deliveries for 164.
+1770 Future Tech 17 -> 18 -> 19. Domestic deliveries for 424, 55. Gold to Toledo for 156.
+1771 Persians put a bomber next to undefended Shiraz. Future Tech 19 -> 20 -> 21. First delivery to Romans for 74, 100. Kerman founded on the Roman strip. Domestic deliveries for 411, 154. Reached peace with Persians. Senate hands peace to Vikings.
+1772 Persians take undefended Tabriz. I get 4 partisans. Rifleman in Aarhus survives barbarian rifleman. Future Tech 21 -> 22 -> 23. Oracle and Sun Tzu built. Persian cannon killed and Tabriz taken back for 525g. Lost 4 citizens, an engineer, and 5 structures in the process. Persian bomber killed. Undemanded Dye to Spanish for 80, 30. Domestic deliveries for 304. Tech bombed Indians. Its effect on my tech cost seems minimal. Sold a lot of sewers and aqueducts in maxed out cities. T0L2S8
+1773 Persians make 2 attacks losing a unit and killing one. Future Tech 23 -> 24 -> 25. Great Wall built. 2 Persian units killed. Chuka founded. Now all the land up to the Persian border is fully settled. Silver to Romans for 72. Silk to Toledo for 74. Barbarian rifleman bribed for 82g. T1L2S7
+1774 Persian elephant kills a partisan. Future Tech 25 -> 26 -> 27 -> 28. Manhattan built. Barbarian rifleman killed.5 Persian units killed. Domestic deliveries for 324, 228, 8, 170. Provoked Vikings into war. Viborg bribed for 555g. Spy lost. Got 102g and 2 units. Trondheim bribed for 1488g. Got 136g and 2 units. T0L10S0
+1775 Space ship arrives

 

[grigor]

I finally got a computer to play GOTM games!
I decided on EC, with a super-aggressive start. I founded on the site and got to Monarchy in 3250. There was only one round of respawns, but my small civ made tracking them down slow. I finished well before 1000AD.

Initial plan was focused on:
Super early Monarchy
4 early cities for ease of wonders with Trade
2 early triremes - one for exploration before LH and one for transporting settlers in the early expansion
Conquest tech path with early side path to Trade
Try for LH and Marco by 500BC

Log:
4000 Found on Site. (Monarchy will be faster) Work ocean
3950 research CB (2/10)
3800 RB 2 shields
3750 CB => Mon (22)
3500 10/22
3350 tech rate drops to 18 - work grass
3250 Monarchy, revolution. gov: Monarchy.res Maps (33)

3150 Size 1 Settler. Will found 2nd city ASAP
3100 5/33 working ocean and grass
3000 move one square past whale to maximize land tiles. 9/33
2950 Ur. 11/33 beakers: 5
2850 RB in Ur. 21/33
2700 Maps=>HB (2/48)
2650 Babylon builds settlers instead of trireme. will road and take next trireme.
2500 18/48
2350 Ur: Settlers. moving to city site.
2250 Babylon RB trireme.
2200 Ur-Babylon road completed. Nineveh
2150 HB => BW (1/60)
2100 Ashur. Beakers: 8
2050 Ur horse boards trireme. Exploration begins
2000 Status: 4 Cities, Monarchy, 7 techs researching BW. 1 horse, 1 trireme.

 

[grigor]

Log to 500b

1800 BW => Curr (5/72) Babylon: trireme. Hut! Polytheism. could have been worse. Science now 5/91

1600 Ashur: Settler. Hut: nomads
1500 Status: 4C 2 sett, 2 trireme, 1 horse.
1450 Ur settler. Trireme finds Pheasant - build here.
1400 Elippi. Currency => Trade (6/112)
1350 Akkad. beakers: 15
1300 Babylon settlers. Meet Indians. no peace - we will get writing when we take their cities. War. Kill Indian Horse..
1200 Find Delhi
1100 kill an Indian phalanx
1050 Madras is a Barb city!

1000 Trade => Myst (2/126) Science to 30. start rushing vans for LH and Marco. build ellie near Indians.

Status: 6C; 2 sett, 2 trireme, 1 horse, 1 ellie. 11 Techs, res Myst.

825 LH. Ashur in revolt
775 Uruk (7)
650 Bangalore destroyed.
600 MPE in Nineveh. Delhi captured.

Romans: 5C no tech (!)
Vikes: 2C Mas, WC
Spanish: 3C, IW
Persians: 3C, WC
Carts: 2C Myst, Wheel
Indians: 1C, Wheel

Romans: give Writ, Pots, get map.
Vikes: give CB, peace, Trade, Mon, get WC, Mas, map
Persians: give TRADE, mon, CB, get map.
Spanish: give Maps, trade, pots. get map
Carts: give WC, pots, maps. get maps, no trade., War.

575 Bombay captured, 62g, wheel. Indians kaput. Mongols spawn.
525 Carts: trade for Myst

500 Status: 9C, 16 techs. res Seaf (110/280) beakers: 21

4 Sett, 4 trireme, 4 elephant, 1 horse. 4 warriors

 

[grigor]

Log to 200AD

Goals: expand to next ring of spiral: settler/trireme combo. Then 2 triremes of ellies for foes:
Persians will need only 1 settler and 2 ellies
Vikes need 2 triremes 1 settler and 4 ellies
Carts need 2 triremes 2 settlers and 4 ellies
Spanish need 2 triremes and 3 ellies
total: 4 settlers, 13 ellies, 6 triremes

Also need HG soon.
450 Eridu near Spanish.
425 Samarra near Persians -4 specials.
375 Hut:Nomads.
350 Lagash towards Carts.
300 Kish towards Vikes.
225 Want to begin Persian War but get 50g tribute instead. Get $$ from everybody.
200 get much more tribute, then sneak attack Persians. Persepolis, Pasgardae, feudalism. Will need dips for the rest of Persia.
175 Yet more tribute. vans for HG.
150 HG in Nineveh. Zariquim near Vikings.
125 Barbs near Uruk. Hut: 50g. More tribute from Carts. Can't find Arbela. sending a dip ship.

100 More tribute.
75 Hut: 2 barb horse. Ellies wipe them out.
50 Find Arbela. Bribe for 171g. Persians destroyed. Americans respawn. get Literacy from Romans, IW from Spanish.
25 Republic from Romans, Math from Spanish. $$ from Carts and Mongols.
AD1 Sippar founded near Romans. $$ from Spanish and Mongols.

Status: 20C, Monarchy. HG, LH. 22 techs researching construction (15 turns)
Units: 4 sett, 9 trireme, 15 elephant, 10 Warrior, 6 pikes, 2 horse, 1 archer, 1 dip.

20 Construction from Mongols. Izibia founded near Spanish. Tax to 30
40 research Chiv. Romans: Banking. Larsa near Carts
80. Romans 50g. Spanish 50g. attack soon.
100 Carts 50g. Vikes 50g. Mongols 35g. Americans: war Sneak attack Romans. Capture Antium.
120 Sneak attack Vikes. capture Uppsala. Sneak Spanish take Madrid
140 Americans: Philosophy.
160 Rome destroyed. Americans: Mono
180 Trondheim captured.
200 Veii captured.

Status: 27C. 26 Tech res Chiv. Mono means MC is available.

6 Sett, 17 Trireme, 20 Elephant, 3 Crooks..10 Warriors, 3 Archer, 11 Pike, 2 horse. 2 dips, 4 Vans, 3 for MC

 

[grigor]

Log to near the end:

220 Valencia. Barb trireme sighted near Barcelona - unload Ellie.
240 Toledo destroyed.
260 Cumae, Seville. Carts 50g. Americans 25g
300 Hladir bribed fpr 27g. Engineering from Mongols.
320 Mongols 50g
340 hut:NONE Crook. lose trireme by accidentally attacking a warrior. Neapolis destroyed. Carts: 50g
360 Kaupang
380 Americans: 50g. attack Carthage: lose an ellie but capture.

400 MC in Nineveh. Mongols war. capture Karakorum. Valladolid bribed 27g/

Status: 39C 27 tech res chiv

6 Sett, 17 Ellies, 14 trireme, 10 Warrior, 16 Pikes,2 archer, 2 horse, 1 Caravan, 7 dips
Spanish, Vikes, Romans, Mongols, Americans all one city.
Carts have 3

420 Spanish liberate Barcelona, Mongols destroyed. Sioux respawn.
440 Americans: War. Barcelona bribed. Aarhus bribed. Vikings destroyed, no respawn! Pompeii captured, Romans destroyed. Also no respawn.
460 Utica bribed. Salamanca destroyed. Spanish destroyed; Aztecs respawn.
480 Washington captured. NY remains.
500 Chivalry => Astro. Samarra Hides to Ashur (d, 32g).

540 Carts destroyed. No respawn. find Aztecs near Sioux. Hut: barbs
560 Barbs kill an elephant. Trireme survives barb trireme attack. NY bribed Americans destroyed
580 hut: tribe. Attack Tenochtitlan
620 Tenochtitlan captured. Aztecs destroyed.No respawn.

640 60 cities now.

I reached the Sioux a few turns later and wiped them out.

After the fact I wonder if it would have been faster to take 10 turns in Republic in order to grow enough to get Navigation and Magellan.

 

[Inkerman]

I do not think anyone else is going for a (not so early) conquest, but in accordance with convention for the spoiler I won't post details.

I am absolutely delighted to be corrected by grigor, playing a slick EC. It makes my game's path of prioritising navigation look clumsy.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

I finally got a computer to play GOTM games!

Wonderful! Delighted to see you back.

I decided on EC ...

What a surprise

340 hut:NONE Crook. lose trireme by accidentally attacking a warrior.

In circumstances like this it is legitimate to go back to your latest save and play again as long as there are no random events (huts and battles) or you manage to recreate them. Duke used to call this fat-fingering. In early game, where mistakes are costly and recreation is simple, I usually go back and in late game, where mistakes are not so costly and recreation is difficult, I ignore it

 

[grigor]

Thanks Ali.

This fat fingering episode had a hut and was relatively late game so I chose not to go back.