Govannon and Empyrean units

[nealhunt]

Can Govannon train the Empyrean units that have Sorcery or is there some sort of Channeling I/II loophole that prevents it?

 

[MagisterCultuum]

He can still train them (excluding disciples), but to get the second level spells they would need channeling 2, whihc they don't have (I assume you were talking about radian guards and rathas?). So basically, there is a Channeling I/II loophole.

 

[nealhunt]

Thanks.

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Edit: I think it would be really helpful if discussions of magic used the terminology of the promotions instead of School/Sphere #, which is not in line with how the system actually works. It makes the whole thing very non-intuitive because you have to think through "Sorcery/Sun2" is actually "Sorcery/Channeling 2/Sun 2" and so on.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

You don't need channeling2 to use the spell, just to get the promotion. All level 2 spell promotions require channeling 2, and all level 3 promotions require channeling3

 

[Pyr0mancer]

Let me see if I've got this right: Govannon's Train (Spell) ability gives Channeling I and (Sphere) I to any living unit. Radiant Guards/Ratha have Sorcery and Sun II, so training them would give them Channeling I, (Sphere) I, Sorcery, and Sun II, so they would still cast only Blinding Light and whatever level I spell was trained.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Correct, except that it doesn't work on any living unit, as animals and disciples are excluded.