Greek SG - Regent level

This time I remember it's vanilla but fire PTW anyway. I see we are way ahead techwise. That's good. Cities are OK , that's good too. Culture 20K is far away. Le'me make some math (on SirPleb's 20K calculator). It projects 20K by 1956. At least we're still able to do it.

Change cities to Factory prebuilds as follows: Delhpi, Herakleia, Argos, Tessaloniki. I already ran out of time tonight. Nighty night.

OK, I see we've managed to overcome most common mistake number one: defend all the cities. Now I will bugger you about general mistake number two: neglect commerce. We could use more luxuries. It costs us almost nothing to get those luxuries and money. So do it:
Trade Economics to Persia for Spices and 23 gpt. Renegotiate peace with Persia for 60 gold. Sign RoP with Persia for 90 gold.

Give India Chemistry, Theology and RoP for Wines, WM and 1 gold. Sell Free Artistry and the world map for about 50 gold.

Declare war to Iroqouis to gain one more turn. Kill 6 Knights, 2 Longbows, 1 Sword, 2 Muskets, 2 Pikes, 5 Spears by losing 1 Cav and getting Caughnawaga and Canterbury in the process. Find 3 fortified workers while looking for units. Uprgade 1 Catapult to Cannon. Move 13 Cavs on the hills surrounding Grand River.

IT: The bulk of the Iroquois army pops up from the jungles West of Hangchow.

1380AD: First attack kills a knight and generates a leader. We further kill 4 Knights, 3 Longbows, 1 Sword, 2 Muskets, 3 Pikes, 1 Spear but we lose 4 Cavs. We capture Grand River and Oil Springs as a result. Hmm, there were some GoTo orders active.

IT: The lightly defened Hangchow is razed by the Iroquois. We also lose 4 Rifles, 1 Cav and 3 workers in the region. Norwich and Warwick are now threatened.

1385: kill 5 Knights, 2 Mounted Warriors, 3 Longbows, 1 Sword, 2 Muskets, 1 Pike, 3 Spears losing 1 Cav and capturing Tyendenaga, Niagara Falls. It's morning yet I'm sleepy. Oaaaah...Brake

IT: Norwich is captured but Warwick holds. We lost three rifles and a Cavalry but several Iroquois Knights, Mounted Warriors, Archers and Swords died as well.

1390: Start by attacking Salamanca, kill a musket, then remember that our leader just got to Sparta, FP rushed (I built a Cav this turn to avoid wasting shields). Kill 1 Musket, 1 Pike and 1 Spear and take Salamanca. Kill 2 spears and take Kawauka. Lose an Elite Cavalry at Tonawanda but then kill a musket and 2 Pikes and take the city. I try to use the momentum to capture Chondote defended by a Pike and a Spear but there's also a longbow and I dont have any units that can attack this turn. Instead I kill some five stray Iroquois units and prepare the future attacks.

IT: The Iroquois manage another stunt and unload a knight near our undefended city of Frankfurt. War weariness level one hits us but only corrupt cities are affected.

1395: we build the FP and the Industrialization is one turn away. We capture Chondote but at Cattaraugus we encounter a Cavalry before we get the city. Since the Iroquois empire is crumbling, we open a new front and capture Nineveh.

There is only one way to avoid Frankfurt being captured and that is to have Germany on our side. We build and embassy in Berlin and have them declare war to the Iro in exchange for 4gpt and RoP. In the end I find a couple of unused Cavalries and take back Norwich.

IT: As expected Germany manages to kill the Iroquois knight and removes the danger. To be sure we draft a rifle in Frankfurt. A small Zulu city pledges allegiance to us. We accept. Discover Industrialization.

1400: Start Electricity project and change many cities to factories. Buy the factory of Sparta for a hefty 844 gold. Attack Lagash and generate the second Leader Ajax. Since it would take him many (5) turns to get to Sparta, I turn him into an army and use it to take Lagash. I also take Oka and Mauch Chunk.


Wipe out the Iroquois
 
Let's see...that means:

Wizard - to grab the save
mad-bax - warming up
Smellincoffee
Håkon
Yndy

Funny, I had exactly the same text for my url in another SG I'm in - except that I put Spanish instead of Iroquois :)
 
Ok, got it, I'll play later today, so you'll have time t otell me if there is something I should remember or know before I play the turns.

Looks really good, BTW. :goodjob: 2 leaders in 5 turns? Not bad at all. :)

Oh, and what should be done with the leaders we might get? Should I flip our palace to a city in Old England or should I do something else?
 
Whoops, I really ment to play it today but I totally forgot...:(

And now it's Christmas time, so I'm not gonna be here until New Year. Skip me if necessary.

Maybe we should put this thread on hold until everyone's back here?
 
Maybe...or maybe we should just go for conquest and get it over with. At this rate, we'll be playing till Easter 2005 and still not be near a 20K win...and it'd be quite boring micromanagement for the most part...
 
I'm 'ere.
 
Yeah, me too - where's mad-bax, I wonder?
 
OK. But it's actually your turn, Wiz :)
 
Whoops, so it is...:)

What shold I do? I have forgotten our situation, so what should I remember?
 
The title of the save should say a lot - I'm afraid it's warfare again, Wizard. Just take out the Iroquois, getting a load of leaders in the process, and hurrying all the culture producing wonders you can get.
 
Let's see... We should put the FP into Sparta, then the next leader should hop the palace to... what city?, then culture- producing wonders into Sparta, right?
 
The turnlog:

Preturn: Check all stuff to see how we are going, it has been a long time since I last played. Seems like the bulk of our army is heading towards Akwesasne... Press enter after checking that cities don't riot next turn. See that there is a Cavalry in Argos. I wonder why... Move it to the front. But I press enter before that, and the turn ends...

IBT: Caesar wants our troops out of his territory. I agree. We have many undefended cities near their border. Our people wanna build the Heroic Epic. Maybe we should... Miltary Academy is also now available.

Sparta factory > Heroic Epic. It comes in turns, and gives 4 cpt- the same as the Universal Suffrage.
Frankfurt Market > lib.
Chendu cav > cav.
Caugh wor > wor.

1405AD [1]: Battle of Centralia:
Reg cav attacks reg musket, retreats.
Vet cav attacks reg musket, wins, .2hp.
Vet cav kills reg pike, takes city + a cannon. :)

Gotta go to eat. Will continue tomorrow.

Back to action. Continue moving troops to Iroquois border.

Battle of Ghulaman:
Elite cav attacks vet 1hp knight, wins, takes the city + a worker.

Battle of Akkad:
Vet cav kills reg musket, -1hp.
Vet cav loses to reg spear! :eek:
Reg rifle loses to reg spear...


IBT: Germans would offer Chivvy for Economics. No way. Chivalry is quite useless...
Sign peace with Lizzy.
Athens factory > cav.
York wor > lib.
Coventry wor > wor.
Tyendenaga wor > lib.

1410AD [2]: Battle of Akwesasne:
Elite cav kills reg spear, -1hp.

Battle of Gayagaahe:
Vet cav loses to reg musket.
Vet cav kills reg musket.

Battle of Akkad:
Vet 3-hp cav retreats from reg spear.

IBT: Hiawatha wants to have peace, I say no.
We lose two cavs to Iroquoi longbows.
Nottingham wor > lib.
Dover wor > wor.
Leeds wor > wor.

1415AD [3]:
Battle of Gayagaahe:
Vet cav kills reg spear, -3hp, razes the town.

Battle of Akwesasne:
Elite cav kills reg spear.
Elite cav kills reg spear, takes the city + a worker.

Take sci down to 60%, Electricity still in 2, +108gpt.

Build Sicyon.

1- cav army kills logbow near Akkad.

IBT: Rome sneak attacks us! Our con rifle in Richmond defeats a cav they sent.
Athens cav > cav.
Xinjian wor > lib.
Oxford wor > lib.

1420AD [4]: Battle of Gewauga:
Elite cav wins reg spear, razes the city + sinks a galley.

Battle of St.Regis
Elite cav kills reg musket.
Vet cav kills reg musket, takes the city + worker.

Battle of Gandasetaigon:
Elite cav kills reg pike.
Elite cav kills reg spear, takes the city + a worker.

Battle of Akkad:
Vet cav kills reg spear.
1- cav army dies to reg spear. Man, I was stupid. I could have loaded two cavs into it but I didn't. :cry:
Ajax Dani kills reg spear and takes the city.

IBT: The Romans bring large amounts of troops to near our territory.
We research Electricity, go on to SciMet.Get sci up to 80%, SM due in 4 @ -74gpt.
Brighton wor > lib.

1425AD [5]: Vet cav kills reg knight near Anyang.
Vet cav kills Iroquois Musket near Kahnawake.

Battle of Ganogeh:
Eite cav kills reg spear.
Vet cav kills reg spear, raes the city.

Battle of Kente:
Ajax Dani kills vet spear.
Vet cav kills reg spear, takes the city.

If you wanna change Sparta to ToE prebuild, do it.
 
OK, back to Smellincoffee then - it's really mad-bax' turn, but haven't heard from him, so we'll skip him.
 
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