Haida Civilization: leader 3d, animated, era specific, icons included...

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

The Iroquois would have to have advanced pretty darn fast in order to pull that off. It would have made North American geopolitics alot more interesting today if those tribes survived as separate nations.

 

[CivArmy s. 1994]

The new Haida LH is available to download, have fun

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

I like how you increased the head size, while still keeping the new detailed look that has become your standard Civ...

 

[chieflitlsmoke]

Me too. Still a unit of a Haida warrior with helmet and breastplate would be a really nice addition. Here's some info:

Warriors wore various kinds of armour including war helmets, wooden visors to protect their necks, and breastplates that were often concealed under a leather tunic emblazoned with their crests. Few Haida wooden slat breastplates have survived, although numerous Tlingit examples exist in museums. There are, however, many Haida painted leather tunics.

Haida body armour favoured the war coat, which was made of the thick hides of sea lions or of several layers of elkskin. The former was available through trade on the Nass River while the latter was acquired from European and American traders who obtained them from tribes at the mouth of the Columbia River.

I managed to dig up this pic. A native American replacement for the civ Medieval Warrior perhaps

you are right we did wear the sea lion as armor but my people did not trade for it they killed the sea lion or they were killed trying when a haida boy turned 8 years old he went to live with his mothers brother his uncle and from that time on he was trained for war he sat in the salt water for hours and was beatin with big thick spruce branches and devils club and was sent back to the water and done all over again morning and night he was made to do many things to gain strength and when he was ready to be tested into man hood he was brought to a sea lion rock and was sent to kill the big bull on the top or die trying when he did succeed he was a Haida Warrior ready to hunt and raid up and down the coast this is how my people the kaigani got their sea lion

 

[chieflitlsmoke]

Thats Tlingit, actually, the helmet too.

Tlingit were very warlike, Haida less so. Haida probably used similar armour though, but the helmets are specifically Tlingit. Tlingits are the group that came into frequent conflict with Russian settlements

When people speak of Haida as the "Pacific coast Vikings" I think they refer to the Tlingit and other Pacific coast groups, really. The Haida were not exceptionally aggressive (though they did have conflicts and even sometimes behaved aggressively). The Haida were more of a commercial culture, status among the Haida was measured by wealth (which was displayed in a ritualized exchange of gifts). Whereas the Tlingit were a typical warrior-oriented culture. Seafaring/commercial would be a more accurate reflection of Haida culture, if you are going to feature it as a separate entity from Tlingit. All the groups of the Pacific coast were raiders, Haida included, and relative to many other native groups their technical prowess at war was somewhat advanced, particularly at sea, but the main basis of their cultures were rooted in trade and material goods. Also, these cultures were without a doubt the wealthiest of all the native groups anywhere north of Mexico. And though they were skilled raiders, none of them can be said to have been as warlike as, say, the Iroquois (who utterly wiped out the Huron from the face of the planet), the Aztec, etc etc.

we were very war like more so then the tlingits from the north there is a saying here in our land back in the by gone days and the reason they called us the haida the vikings of the north west is because we cut the head off and took it back home to stick in front of our long house's we even made war and took slaves among our own people we did gather our wealth from trade up and down the coast are war canoes were in great demand and there is a reason why the russians never came to haida territory like they did the tlingits its because we killed their aleut sea hunters and sent them all back towards sitka and when the tlingits fought the russians the kiagani haida attacked the russians from the sea and the tlingits from the land the alaskan haida had ties with the sitka tlingits

 

[T-mun]

Hi Chieflitlsmoke, and welcome here. Please look at the dates, you will notice that this conversation ended April 05, 2005 (8 years ago). It's very likely that none of the guys you're quoting will ever read your answer.