Help! Upgrading from media center to gaming rig!

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So... I have a:

AMD Turion 64X2 Mobile at 1.9 GHz...
1GB DDR2 RAM...
Nvidia MCP67M adapter and a 6*** series card...
Onboard sound...
Windows Vista Home Premium...

I'm not sure about the onboard sound, or how to find my motherboard... But I have aa fair sum of cash and was wondering what kind of upgrades I'd need to put this pup into overdrive. I wanna AT LEAST be able to run Company of Heroes on max settings without lag.

Please help! I'm a tad new to this stuff...
 
Yeah, you kinda can... I have before.

In fact, if you couldn't upgrade them, then why do corporations create after market upgrades designed for laptops?

But I digress...
 
You can't upgrade it where it counts, which is with the video card.

What do you mean by "fair sum of cash?" Because you can put together a decent gaming rig for around $800, but I am guessing you were talking about a lot less money than that.
 
I wanna AT LEAST be able to run Company of Heroes on max settings without lag.

Not going to happen, even top of the line desktop cards with fast processors struggle with that game on max settings.

Like other posters have mentioned though, you probably can't upgrade anything in that computer other than the memory and possibly the cpu.
 
Yeah, you kinda can... I have before.

In fact, if you couldn't upgrade them, then why do corporations create after market upgrades designed for laptops?

But I digress...
The processor is probably nonreplaceable and it certainly doesn't have an empty slot for a video card
 
If you have a fair sum of cash, keep the media center a media center and buy yourself a nice gaming desktop. A decent one that will last you a year or two shouldnt cost more than 1000-1200$ US
 
You can't upgrade a laptop

Not true. You can upgrade the hard drive and memory on almost any laptop, and the CPU is upgradable (though not necessarily easily) on most. Some allow for the GPU being upgraded as well.

Not going to happen, even top of the line desktop cards with fast processors struggle with that game on max settings.

Like other posters have mentioned though, you probably can't upgrade anything in that computer other than the memory and possibly the cpu.

I've run the Company of Heroes demo on max settings on my laptop (GeForce 8600M GT DDR2) with decent FPS. It wasn't 60 in all likelihood, but it was certainly smooth enough for an RTS.

The processor is probably nonreplaceable and it certainly doesn't have an empty slot for a video card

I'm not an expert on AMD processors, but I know mobile Intel ones are almost always replaceable (though it's not an easy upgrade, and you can't upgrade to just any other Intel processor). As for the video card, it probably isn't replaceable - most are soldered on in laptops, and many others require a specific connection (thus requiring you to purchase the new card from your laptop manufacturer). However, if your laptop is MXM-compatible, it can be upgraded without too much difficulty. Otherwise, it depends on your laptop manufacturer.

If your graphics card is the GeForce 6150 or another integrated card, then you probably don't have a dedicated graphics card slot, and don't have any chance of upgrading. But I'm guessing that since you said it's a media-center laptop and has a 6*** series card that you have the 6600 or another dedicated card.

If you have a fair sum of cash, keep the media center a media center and buy yourself a nice gaming desktop. A decent one that will last you a year or two shouldnt cost more than 1000-1200$ US

This is probably what you want to do if you want betting graphics performance. Here's what I'd advise:

1). If you want to upgrade: Start with memory. 1 GB really isn't enough for gaming with Vista. I'd buy a 2 GB stick so you'd have 2.5 GB total. Total cost will be about $60. Then graphics card if possible (depends on the model, but it's unlikely it's possible). Then processor - AMD Turion X2 Tl-68 (2.4 GHz) is the top-of-the-line on the AMD side, which you are limited to by your motherboard.

2). If you can't get what you want by upgrading (i.e. can't upgrade video card): Look for something with at least an 8600M GT or 7900 GS from nVIDIA, or 2600 from ATI. The Gateway P-6831FX is probably your best bet overall for price and performance, selling for $1350 at Best Buy with the high-end 8800M GTS video card, but it is a 17-inch model.
 
I've run the Company of Heroes demo on max settings on my laptop (GeForce 8600M GT DDR2) with decent FPS. It wasn't 60 in all likelihood, but it was certainly smooth enough for an RTS.

Maybe at low resolutions, with no AA or AF, niether of which really qualify as "max settings".

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/12/11/nvidia_geforce_8800_gts_512/9

Even at the medium resolution of 1680x1050 with AA enabled, the only cards to average over 30 fps were the 8800 GTS 512MB, the 8800 GT and the 8800 GTX.
 
Company of Heroes performance demo isnt something to base your fps on. Especially if you have Opposing Fronts. I get ~40 fps in performance demo, yet barely 20 in the actual game.
 
Maybe at low resolutions, with no AA or AF, niether of which really qualify as "max settings".

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/12/11/nvidia_geforce_8800_gts_512/9

Even at the medium resolution of 1680x1050 with AA enabled, the only cards to average over 30 fps were the 8800 GTS 512MB, the 8800 GT and the 8800 GTX.

1280x800 resolution (still the most common on laptops) and yes, no AA (can almost never tell a difference so it's not worth the FPS hit). Not sure about AF, been awhile since I played it. Not really max, but considering common resolutions and the negligible effect of anti-aliasing, it's close enough.

And yeah, demo performance sometimes does differ. It probably was DX9, and demos never are exactly the same as the final product. Sometimes that's good, though.

So what it comes down to is how picky you are about resolution and antialiasing. If you're like me and can't tell a difference with antialiasing 99% of the time and consider 1280x800 a high resolution, the 8600M GT will serve you'll probably be fine. At least after going DX9 instead of DX10 (which I'd suggest anyways, but for entirely different reasons than graphics).
 
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