Horrible civ2 experiences

[el_kalkylus]

I had just switched my government to republic, and one barbarian came from a boat on shore to a well protected city of mine with 2 veteran phalanx, and roads connected to 6 close cities with phalanxes. First, the archer-barbarian wiped out the 2 of my phalanxes like nothing. Luckily, I thought, I had lots of backup and sended in 2 more phalanxes just before the last one got killed. These weren't veterans, but I thought they could hold anyway. But no! That &%¤&¤ archer killed those phalanxes too, but luckily I had 1 more phalanx in a nearby citiy that I had moved to the city before the last two were killed, and of course they were killed too, and the city was destroyed! What makes this even more irritating is that this city also recently built the colussus! DOH!

I couldn't reload, because that was a rule I made for myself before the game, so the game was pretty much ruined once again.

 

[slothman]

If it was ruined then you might as well reload. At least see if you could win.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

My horrible experiences are with nuke-trigger-happy AI civs. Each time I take a city, nuke! So build SDI and somehow try to hold on to the city before the next nuke. Repeat till all cities are taken. Worse when fighting against 3 or 4 nuke-enabled civs. It's such a pain that I usually simply give up on the game and begin a new one.

 

[jc011]

i've never really had many nuke related problems, because im already starting on my spaceship before nukes are out. But my biggest problem is that the AI's spaceship keeps landing one or two years before mine!!! ARGH!! One time it would land on the same year, i was the romans so i should've won but i didn't!!

 

[starlifter]

These weren't veterans, but I thought they could hold anyway. But no! That &%¤&¤ archer killed those phalanxes too, but luckily I had 1 more phalanx in a nearby citiy that I had moved to the city before the last two were killed, and of course they were killed too, and the city was destroyed! What makes this even more irritating is that this city also recently built the colussus! DOH!

That is TERRIBLE! The wonder is lost forever when its city is destroyed. You can never get it back!

Let the barb have the city next time. Just bribe it back!! Even better, the barb will almost always offer a ransom before sacking the city. How much did they demand?

I try to keep about 100 or 200 gold on hand for bribes, and if you keep more than that, their ransom will be almost as big as your treasury... so don't just pile gold into the bank.

 

[jc011]

i've noticed in my games that when a barbarian is about to capture a city it will demand money, but sometimes it doesn't give you that oppurtunity. But i believe that when they do demand money, it cuts your money in half?? (can anyone confirm)

 

[el_kalkylus]

Originally posted by starlifter
Let the barb have the city next time. Just bribe it back!! Even better, the barb will almost always offer a ransom before sacking the city. How much did they demand?

Stupid me didn't think of that. I was just so confident that my 5 phalanxes could hold against the barbarian with the diplomat. But I am always unlucky with fights. In my new game, I lost 20 troops to the japanese while they lost about 10. No luck. This game is all about luck when it comes to fights. It doesn't matter if you are on a mountain...it is my destiny to lose troops.

But i believe that when they do demand money, it cuts your money in half??

Yeah, they do. I don't know why they don't demand money sometimes...maybe it's when there are more than one troop of barbarians.

 

[starlifter]

i've noticed in my games that when a barbarian is about to capture a city it will demand money, but sometimes it doesn't give you that oppurtunity.

I'm not often faced with that, but when I have been the pattern seems to be that if the city is undefended when the barb approaches, it will take your city without warning. I lost 2 cities to sea barbs this way when I played GOTM 4 in June (unofficial, because it was past the deadline when I joined CivFanatics). But even if I had a caravan, or dip, defending, and it lost (of course), if there was a 2nd barb move or attacker, it would offer the ransom.

My usual goal is to build defensible terrain our use defensible terrain to defend on, to avoid losing pop points with losses. Of late, I almost never, well never, lose to barbs anymore, if I'm prepared. When you see one of my NONEs fortified on a hill on the outskirts of my civ, you can bet its because barbs keep coming from that way. Better to fight battles out there, I figure. Usually, I have a cavalry around nearby to chase down the leader. I often build a road to get that leader, too.

 

[Magnus]

barbs ask for half your money or all of it, howerver if you have less than 50 in the bank, then they just take the city without asking.

bad start? how about being stuck on the North Pole at the start (on a small world), with no way to get off except trireme, one goody hut (leading to an advance that just slows you down from getting mapmaking) and no way to get more than one special (fish or musk ox) for the starting city. No starting techs but two settlers (yipee).

 

[jc011]

that's a bad start, i think that i recall seeing someone stuck on a two square island!!

 

[PinkyGen]

Anybody in Civ 1 ever start as the English on the Earth map.
That sucked and really slow you down.

Build London, build Chariot, build Tireme, conquer Paris just get a second city. (or build a tireme and settler)Took a while.

 

[Bud2998]

My worst Civ II experience was probably the time I built a super science city quite far from the rest of my nation so I could get it on an island with 4 whales around it. I built the things I needed for it and got it goin' with about 680 beakers. Then, the Spanish come in with about 4 dragoons and destroyed my 2 riflemen!! They took the city and since it had Michelango's Chapel in there too, my whole nation went into disorder and collapsed into anarchy. The Spanish were makin' advances so much, I fell behind in technology with 'em, they traded advances to the other AI's, and the whole world went after me and I got whooped.

 

[jc011]

yes i noticed that when you start to piss other civs off, they will start trading techs and even the slowest civ will be ahead of you!
watch what you do!

 

[oryx]

I had a horrible game once where an enemy tribe had about 100 bombers. I would keep capturing cities, but the bomber assault would continue unabated. They were being built faster than I could destroy industrial capacity. Now that was horrible.

 

[Morgasshk]

I'm pretty sure that land barbarians will ask for Ransom and Sea Barbs won't - Because that their main aim - To score a city, as you notice that they don't pillage either...
And I think it is on Cheiftain they ask for half your money, on all other difficulties they ask for all of it....

I'm only playing on Warlord and they were about to take a size 17 city with 2 wonders in it (don't ask...) and they asked for 15,000 of my 15,000!!!! I had to give it to them!!! (easy come easy go eh?)

On another point... Fukked games, yah, I've had a few... my first attempt at Prince level... after only being on Cheifttain for the two years before I thought I'd give it a whirl...
Had the Japs and started on a relatively small island with 2 settlers - Sweet! So Built my self up quick as shiit had 5 cities on that little continent, then moved onto about another 7 islands around (very convenient, all in good locations.) ended up with about 30 cities spread all over this little area of sea and islands. All the other civ's were on big continents of their own - Therfore, spread out, huge, powerful...
First I tried probing the germans... (my closest neighbour, just a few squares to the south of my original starting point) dropped two transports full of tanks on them... killed three units... all mine dead... Hmmmm, this is crap...
So I went all out... got 10 (exactly...) trasports full of tanks and had 15 battleships surrounding them (were on a island about half again the size of Australia on large world map size) and bombarding all their coastal cities.... Captured two cities and acquired four fortification points..... All my units gone....
Come on!!!! Is this friggin right!!!! Almost gave up on higher difficulties... until I read a thread about using spies to buy cities... NOW that is a good trick!!!

Anyway, thats my little story, off to bed now children!


Morgasshk!

 

[duke o' york]

The most annoying events always involve the AI cheating. Once they sent a dip into one of the cities I'd captured and stole Advanced Flight. I hadn't even got Advanced Flight at the time - I discovered it the next turn! And they got bombers automatically - about five of them in one city! I made them pay for that, let me assure you.

 

[KingOfSloths]

My worst experience is another example of dubious AI...

I was beaten by a musketeer. This may not sound so bad to you, but I left one detail out. I attacked it with a Veteran AEGIS cruiser.

 

[slothman]

Hey you can't be the king of sloths, I am. Well when I get REALLY unlucky in a battle I restore a saved game. I only do it though when something like that happens. If it happens again I might not reload.

 

[floppa21]

Originally posted by slothman
Hey you can't be the king of sloths, I am. Well when I get REALLY unlucky in a battle I restore a saved game. I only do it though when something like that happens. If it happens again I might not reload.

If it happens again, I probably break something.