HOT3 - Suggestions

hotrod0823 · Mar 8, 2003

I am currently looking for input into a new SG for a PTW civ. I am interested in playing either the Celts of Vikings. The game is up for grabs as far as the varient/scenario.

Option I: Diety for NON-Diety players. A just win game with all options open and for players that don't have a Diety win in Single player or SG games. RBE player not appy

.

Option II: Islands game on Monarch with the Vikings - conquest only

Option III: The Anti - infantry game, Celt on Monarch: Conquest of Domination with only fast moving units allowed to travel outside of our cultural boarders. Gropos (TM Sirian, I think) and artillery, can be moved from city to city provided they move on roads or rails. Map to be continents or Pagena (sp).

Hotrod

Aggie · Mar 8, 2003

I'm interested!

Option I sounds nice. I played and won emperor games and never finished a deity game.

Option II and III are also interesting. Monarch or emperor.

LKendter · Mar 8, 2003

Originally posted by hotrod0823
Option I: Diety for NON-Diety players. A just win game with all options open and for players that don't have a Diety win in Single player or SG games. RBE player not appy .
Hotrod

How about calling the game Cannon Fodder 3 :lol:

Oops, CF3 concept already taken. :rolleyes:

jack merchant · Mar 8, 2003

I'm also interested ! I'm beginning to find my feet on emperor, already won it once. Option I might be too advanced for me (I've never even tried Deity), options II and III sound good. One consideration is I'm in Europe and thus forced to play v1.14..

edit: gropos is ground-pounders, right ?

Aggie · Mar 8, 2003

Originally posted by jack merchant
One consideration is I'm in Europe and thus forced to play v1.14..

Me too. But Lt. 'Killer' M explained me a week ago that this doesn't have to be a problem. It would mean that 'patched' players have to have two different versions on their PC though.

hotrod0823 · Mar 8, 2003

Lee your tough. At least we will all go down in flames together with plenty of players to show us how we lost it

. I take it Lee nothing interests you??

hotrod0823 · Mar 8, 2003

As far as which patch I would prefer 1.21 but if need be can be on 1.14 with the understanding that if a Euro patch is release we all upgrade. Right now I am playing both and it isn't easy but doable.

Option I is not meant to be a lets see how quickly we can get destroyed game. I am just interest to see if all us Monarch/emperor players can win as a team even on diety if we work together and accept an critiques that players at diety may provide. Only thick skinned need apply.

Hotrod

Borealis · Mar 8, 2003

I'm interested in Option 1, and would consider holding another open spot for it, even with the shift in my attention to MOO3... playing in a Deity SG would be an opportunity for RBE lurkers

to pop in and analyze our :smoke:

and help out us poor guinea pigs. I've actually managed to get an individual Deity game (with an excellent starting position) to the Industrial Age to a good position, but fell too far behind when I lost ToE to an AI leader.

As far as the patch, if you're going to wait until HOT2 is completed to start this, it might be released by then if we're still aiming for cultural victory, as some :hammer:

may need to be done to slow down the AI.

Aggie: How is it possible to maintain two different versions on your PC? The only possible solution I've seen requires tricking the registry, which is far too hazardous.

Aggie · Mar 8, 2003

Originally posted by Borealis
Aggie: How is it possible to maintain two different versions on your PC? The only possible solution I've seen requires tricking the registry, which is far too hazardous.

Well, we may be talking about the same thing here. Last time I checked this thread everything seemed to work fine, but it appears to be not that simple.

I've got a thick skin and do not want to lose deity. However, if we do get beat, I also don't mind to play on until the bitter end.

@Jack Merchant: You show great skill in CG5 (except for not building that FP

). You must be up to the challenge

LKendter · Mar 8, 2003

Originally posted by hotrod0823
Lee your tough. At least we will all go down in flames together with plenty of players to show us how we lost it . I take it Lee nothing interests you??

Hmmm..

Option 1 - I am disqualified as I have played Diety before.

Option 2 / 3 - Monarchy, no thanks. I am getting to the point of even skipping GOTM at the lower levels due to boredom.

hotrod0823 · Mar 8, 2003

Interested Players:

I: Borealis, Aggie

II: Aggie , Jack Merchant

III: Aggie, Jack Merchant

If request to play a higher than Monarch are strong I think II or III can be played effectively at Emperor.

@Borealis: A culture victory may be tough to get on HOT2, we are at the point where winning by culture may require a few civs to be destroyed. A 100K culture victory on Emperor is a rarity but we should keep trying.

Sirp · Mar 9, 2003

I've thought of starting a game similiar to (1) myself Hotrod, kinda like a 'training game' for players who haven't beaten Deity: I'd be the only Deity-experienced player in the game. I think it'd work nicely.

Of course, since I have beaten Deity, I wouldn't qualify to play in this, so this isn't an expression of interest, just a comment

-Sirp.

Aggie · Mar 9, 2003

Originally posted by Sirp
I've thought of starting a game similiar to (1) myself Hotrod, kinda like a 'training game' for players who haven't beaten Deity: I'd be the only Deity-experienced player in the game. I think it'd work nicely.

Of course, since I have beaten Deity, I wouldn't qualify to play in this, so this isn't an expression of interest, just a comment

-Sirp.

Sirp, that would be awesome! What about it hotrod? You organise version two or three and Sirp does version one?

Sirp · Mar 9, 2003

Aggie: I would like to do it, but not yet. I have my monarch TDG I'm running at the moment, and running two training-type games at the same time would be just too much. There are also some other upcoming games I'm halfway committed to joining.

But yes, at some point I would like to do that, if there is sufficient interest. It'd be kinda embarassing to lose a training-type game though, but on Deity it could actually happen!

I would probably make sure we got a decent starting location though. It's one thing to win on Deity, it's another to win on Deity after starting on a bunch of plains, hills, and desert, with no fresh water in sight!

-Sirp.

hotrod0823 · Mar 9, 2003

With that in mind perhaps we should focus on starting II, or III and once Sirp's TDG at monarch completes join up on Sirps Deity game.

Aggie · Mar 9, 2003

Sirp, I believe you have two interested players already for the deity training

Hotrod, either emperor or monarch is fine with me for both II and III. But I prefer emperor.

jack merchant · Mar 9, 2003

I'm fine with III on emperor, not sure about II (I don't often play archipelago maps). And I'd love a Deity TDG, too

All in due time...

rodneysandy · Mar 9, 2003

Originally posted by Sirp

I would probably make sure we got a decent starting location though. It's one thing to win on Deity, it's another to win on Deity after starting on a bunch of plains, hills, and desert, with no fresh water in sight!

-Sirp. [/B]

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I get the impression that all deity game starts in succession games were engineered to give the players a good starting position.
I have played at least 10 deity games and never had the sort of starts that i have seen here.You know the sort of thing,3 wheats,3 cows,6 bonus grass,luxuries in easy reach as is iron and horses.O.K. I exagerate but not by much.
I have only seen one less than good starting position(RBE12 I think) and all the big hitters lost that one except for the German with the unpronounceable name :rolleyes:

As it was,he was accused of playing an ICS start to his game :rolleyes:

Arutha · Mar 9, 2003

Option IV:

Pangea map, 40% land. May only build / capture coastal cities. Inland cities may be razed, but never captured or founded. Goal would be to control the whole coastline by the end of the game.

Harsher variant: same as above, but only berserkers, marines, settlers, workers, scouts and explorers are allowed beyond cultural borders.

LKendter · Mar 9, 2003

Originally posted by Arutha
Option IV:

Pangea map, 40% land. May only build / capture coastal cities. Inland cities may be razed, but never captured or founded. Goal would be to control the whole coastline by the end of the game.

Harsher variant: same as above, but only berserkers, marines, settlers, workers, scouts and explorers are allowed beyond cultural borders.

One thing to think with Option IV:

If you don't start next to the coast, you could spend a long time finding it putting you way behind.

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