How do I restart a map with a different CIV in same starting location?

[El Caballerion]

The subject heading says it all: How do I restart a map with a different CIV in same starting location?

For example, I just loaded a game with CIV A, but realized that it would be an amazing start if I played with CIV B instead. How can I do that?

 

[Victoria]

How can I do that?

It is currently not possible.

 

[dbwithlemon]

Wouldn't copying the game seed beforehand work? Or some way to pull the seed out of the save file?

 

[cvb]

It is currently not possible.

Because the WorldBuilder currently doesn't allow on a given map to replace a Civ (player, units on turn 0) by another??

Wouldn't copying the game seed beforehand work?

The problem with creating a whole new game using the seed is that different Civs have varying <StartBiasTerrains>, so different starting locations may be chosen.


Perhaps changing a player's identity can be done with a specific Lua script for this purpose. (In civ4 I did that on turn 18 of a running game via Python script; but it was another Civ, not the human controlled)

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[Victoria]

Because the WorldBuilder currently doesn't allow on a given map to replace a Civ (player, units on turn 0) by another??

I imagine this would change the seed.. WB is not integrated enough to do this from what I have tried. Have you managed?

 

[Abaxial]

If you have edited a map to put a particular civ starting in a particular place, you could subsequently re-edit the map to put another civ there. But I don't think that is what you are after.

 

[Victoria]

But I don't think that is what you are after.

No they are fairly clear, standard map generation, about to start first turn and want to change a civ then. Generations done, seed created, game begun... lets change things? It could be developed but aint there.

 

[Sostratus]

I imagine this would change the seed.. WB is not integrated enough to do this from what I have tried. Have you managed?

No they are fairly clear, standard map generation, about to start first turn and want to change a civ then. Generations done, seed created, game begun... lets change things? It could be developed but aint there.

if you recycle the map seed but not the game seed you can end up in the same spot as a different civ... provided both civs have compatible start biases. A given game seed on a given map will always give you the same start position, so your only hope is to roll.
Usually this happens when I’m not playing Dutch, and I see amazing lakes. But the Dutch usually get river bias so if you do this and land in the same spot for a couple seeds, it means the game would rather place you elsewhere and it just can’t be done.
For a relatively generic river start you can pull it off if you get lucky, I’ve done that on a map seed before.

 

[Tabarnak]

If you write down seed you might restart the game quite a few times before that said civ land on the right spot.

But, theorically, it's possible.