Hello,
Long time lurker here. I have started playing civ series ages ago with civ 2. Since its release civ4 was one of my favorite games of all time. I enjoy putting time into games that I play and mastering a single game.
Last years I was playing starcraft 2 and dota 2 but I got wrist injury and had to take time to heal. It got a lot better now but for my own safety, I decided to now only play turn-based games.
Recently I got urges to come back to civ IV (I was always a noob and never really got into civ), I have some questions for you:
1. Has the game been broken with the wonderbread economy (or other strategy developments)? When I was learning civ back in 2000s people were arguing SE vs CE. Now I see there was a consensus reached around 2014 that hybrid economy is actually preferred. Is Seraiel illustrated series still up to date? What I loved about civ is how strategy is mainly about playing your map best. There was tons of cool stuff with wonders, religions, specialist, espionage etc.
It seems now that postmodern civ meta is E = mc2. By which i mean, Food = production (with slavery), production = gold (with fail gold), thus food = gold (by whip overflow) and gold = science (enabling 100% slider) and science = production (better tech units means more buck per hammer). So it is all about optimization based on terrain that you get. Which is something I would enjoy. But is the game after all these new developments still challenge to play? Are there still competitive play styles and meaningful choices?
2. How is the multiplayer? Does every game always end with early domination victory? Is there enough defender's advantage to enable teching and longer games? What are the rules ? What game speed ? Are there any balancing mods used?
People always trash on Civ5 (rightfully so) but multiplayer was actually excellent. There are still people playing it and you can search for filthyrobot guides on youtube where he goes in depth into it.
3. Are there still people left? Booth in competitive single player and multiplayer? Is it possible to still find new games?
Long time lurker here. I have started playing civ series ages ago with civ 2. Since its release civ4 was one of my favorite games of all time. I enjoy putting time into games that I play and mastering a single game.
Last years I was playing starcraft 2 and dota 2 but I got wrist injury and had to take time to heal. It got a lot better now but for my own safety, I decided to now only play turn-based games.
Recently I got urges to come back to civ IV (I was always a noob and never really got into civ), I have some questions for you:
1. Has the game been broken with the wonderbread economy (or other strategy developments)? When I was learning civ back in 2000s people were arguing SE vs CE. Now I see there was a consensus reached around 2014 that hybrid economy is actually preferred. Is Seraiel illustrated series still up to date? What I loved about civ is how strategy is mainly about playing your map best. There was tons of cool stuff with wonders, religions, specialist, espionage etc.
It seems now that postmodern civ meta is E = mc2. By which i mean, Food = production (with slavery), production = gold (with fail gold), thus food = gold (by whip overflow) and gold = science (enabling 100% slider) and science = production (better tech units means more buck per hammer). So it is all about optimization based on terrain that you get. Which is something I would enjoy. But is the game after all these new developments still challenge to play? Are there still competitive play styles and meaningful choices?
2. How is the multiplayer? Does every game always end with early domination victory? Is there enough defender's advantage to enable teching and longer games? What are the rules ? What game speed ? Are there any balancing mods used?
People always trash on Civ5 (rightfully so) but multiplayer was actually excellent. There are still people playing it and you can search for filthyrobot guides on youtube where he goes in depth into it.
3. Are there still people left? Booth in competitive single player and multiplayer? Is it possible to still find new games?