How long a revolution will last

[Thunderfall]

Does anyone know what determine the length of a revolution? Sometimes it takes 5 turns, sometimes it takes 7 turn, and I heard someone said it took him 10 turns. In the same game, I have experienced 5, 6, or 7 turn anarchies. The domestic advisor will tell u how long it will take to return to normal (click "more..." to see more advisor messages if you don't see it).

I hope someone can figure out a pattern.

 

[bakant]

I beleive it is partly random, partly which governments youn are switching between and which difficulty level you are playing on. However if your civ has the religious trait then all anarchy will only last a turn which is v. useful since computers think it is a great time to attack you.

 

[Sam_Catchem]

1 if you are religous.

Seriously though..there should be a way to figure it out. I doubt it is random. Who knows? Anybody?

 

[Ferd]

I seem to remember reading somewhere that it is related to which government types. If you're switching from Monarchy to Republic, for example, it shouldn't take as long as from Despotism to Democracy.

Couldn't prove it by me, though. I try to switch governments as seldom as possible. Sometimes I stay in Despotism the entire game.

 

[Proteus]

Hard to imagine.
The screen to choose a new government isn´t displayed before the Revolution ends, therefore one might assume, that it only depends on the Government which is overthrown, not on the Government you want to switch to.

 

[Ferd]

Originally posted by Proteus
Hard to imagine.
The screen to choose a new government isn´t displayed before the Revolution ends, therefore one might assume, that it only depends on the Government which is overthrown, not on the Government you want to switch to.

Good point. It has no way of knowing which government you're going to switch to.

Maybe it's just random. Have you tried saving your game before a revolution and then messing with the random number generator to see if it changes?

Now that I think about it, I have a savegame that would be ideal to try this out on. I'll try it and let you know how it turns out.

 

[Ferd]

Well, the quick test says it's at least partly random. I can get 5, 6, or 7 turn revolts by loading a savegame and messing with the random number generator.

I had the Republic of France in a Monarch game around 400 AD. If I revolt right out of the save game, my civil advisor tells me it will take 6 turns before my government stabilizes. If I activate a catapult and bombard one of my own roads (bombardment fails) and THEN revolt, it goes down to 5 turns. Two catapults will give me 6 turns again, and if I use 3 catapults, all the way up to 7 turns.

Heh. I tried it first with Cleopatra. It thought it would be easier since I had a stack of 20 cannon or so in one of my cities. Should be easy to mess with the random number generator. However, it only gave me one turn of anarchy. Doh!

 

[Mr. Socks]

Yes, I tried the same tests and it's definitely linked to the random number generator. This makes it different from prev civ games. Maybe there are other factors involved. I think there's a min of 3 turns & a max of 8, although I can't remember where I picked that up. I suspect that the government you're changing from doesn't affect the transition time, just because there's no parameter for that in the editor.

 

[Polonius]

I wonder if the happiness and/or other overall general state of your population is taken into account too?

 

[Crazy Eddie]

There seems to be a wide spread in the min/max anarchy period. I've regained control in as few as 1 turns, or as many as 10. I havn't spotted any pattern yet...

 

[Magnus]

OMG! TEN turns of anarchy???? I couldn't handle that - hmmm no wonder I tend toward the religious civs....

 

[Proteus]

I´ve seen 1 turn Anarchy once in all my games (it was in my first game and the Revolution from Despotism to Republic).
All further games sent my Empire for 5 or more turns into anarchy.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Yeah, 10 turns.
I originally got told 8 turns, so I kept reloading and trying for something better the next turn, increasing happiness, having WLTKD's etc. I was given the 10 turn estimate during all of this messing about. I think the basic problem is that my empire was spread out over lots of small islands and had massive corruption problems.

 

[jc011]

I think it has to do with the overall happinessa and corruption of a civ. I also noticed that the estimation, is just....an estimation, it may take longer, or shorter.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Thats my best guess. Of course, I wasn't going to wait and find out.

 

[eyrei]

I think the size of your civ may effect the duration of anarchy, too. Thus, revolutions early in the game take less time.

 

[jc011]

but i don't think civ is directly related, it may be that there is little corruption early on. Well, religous civs have happy peeps, soooo, happiness must play some role with the revolution turns??

 

[RedLeader]

I concentrate early on culture and it only seems to take one turn to regain control and 5 turns to actually switch to a new government. I usually go from Dep. ---> Comm.

 

[RedLeader]

My question is: How much does it cost to go to Democracy and does that have something to do with the lenght of time it takes to switch?

 

[eyrei]

I don't think the future government choice can possibly effect the time in anarchy because you do not choose the new government until anarchy is over.