AlessioCerci
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its Aachen... but i agree about holding fire on the rush.
How to handle this start
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its Aachen... but i agree about holding fire on the rush.
My normal start on a seafood heavy spot with a civ that starts with fishing is:
Start a workboat.
Beeline to Bronze for Slavery.
Whip additional workboat(s).
Mine everything possible.
With multiple seafood resources, you'll grow back very quickly (take breaks to build other stuff). You reveal copper as early as possible. The commerce from coastal tiles is quite a bump. The food helps for workers and settlers (which should be whipped ASAP, because whipping yields more hammers than letting them grow with food). Production from the mines can provide an effective rush.
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I think you definitely have to plan to take out Charlemagne. You're not likely to outgrow him. In the short term, you'll need overwhelming numbers due to the culture bonus, but with horses and possibly copper, it's feasible and nets a capital/holy city. That's just about as sweet a capture as it gets.
The other option is to do a short term war to pick off his expansion cities, then go after the capital once you have cats. I'd probably go for this for a few reasons. First, the unit trade will be less expensive. Second, it gives Charlie enough time to build and develop more cities on your behalf.
Third, it increases the chances that the holy shrine will be built before you take the city. In the meantime, expand and get a good production base.
You have food, so hook up horses first for production. Then another food source (probably workboat since you can work on that while the worker hooks stuff up), and mine the plains hill.
I would start to settle towards Charlie, probably on the hill next to the 2 silk sources. That will keep him from crowding you off those resources and provide a staging point for going after him. After that, I'd probably settle along the coast both north (cottageable area) and south (pigs/wheat), but that will depend on further exploration.
In a nutshell:
expand and stock up on military.
beeline to construction for cats and start building them.
beeline CoL so you can chop courthouses in the spots you conquer.
go to war sometime near the date CoL pop.
...step 3 - Profit!
Start a workboat.
Beeline to Bronze for Slavery.
Whip additional workboat(s).
Mine everything possible.
With multiple seafood resources, you'll grow back very quickly (take breaks to build other stuff). You reveal copper as early as possible. The commerce from coastal tiles is quite a bump. The food helps for workers and settlers (which should be whipped ASAP, because whipping yields more hammers than letting them grow with food). Production from the mines can provide an effective rush.
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I think you definitely have to plan to take out Charlemagne. You're not likely to outgrow him. In the short term, you'll need overwhelming numbers due to the culture bonus, but with horses and possibly copper, it's feasible and nets a capital/holy city. That's just about as sweet a capture as it gets.
The other option is to do a short term war to pick off his expansion cities, then go after the capital once you have cats. I'd probably go for this for a few reasons. First, the unit trade will be less expensive. Second, it gives Charlie enough time to build and develop more cities on your behalf.
Third, it increases the chances that the holy shrine will be built before you take the city. In the meantime, expand and get a good production base.You have food, so hook up horses first for production. Then another food source (probably workboat since you can work on that while the worker hooks stuff up), and mine the plains hill.
I would start to settle towards Charlie, probably on the hill next to the 2 silk sources. That will keep him from crowding you off those resources and provide a staging point for going after him. After that, I'd probably settle along the coast both north (cottageable area) and south (pigs/wheat), but that will depend on further exploration.
In a nutshell:
expand and stock up on military.
beeline to construction for cats and start building them.
beeline CoL so you can chop courthouses in the spots you conquer.
go to war sometime near the date CoL pop.
...step 3 - Profit!
