widdowmaker
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Now i am by no means the best. And i looked in the War Acadamy and looked for a Article on how to win a conquest and found none. I, by nature, am a warmonger. In fact i turn off all other victory condintions EXCEPT Conquest. Now onto the meat of this post.
In a conquest game there are two "types" of war. The Zerg Rush and a War of Attrition. In a Zerg Rush you simply take alot of Tanks MA MI and other units and throw them at enemy cities. The upside is you *WILL* win by sheer numbers. The downside is that it costs an ungodly ammount of gold. You very well may need upwards of 150 - 300 units. Depending on the Civ your going after and how big they are. Along with what they have and how far ahead or behind they are.
The Second type of war is the War of Attrition, in this type of war you simply pillage every tile possible and starve a civ down to nothing. It kills their production, their income, their population, and possiblely decends them into anarchy. When they run out of gold their military will desert them. The upside of this type of war is that you lose few units.(and thus have less WW) and you destroy an entire civ. Also, it does not take many units to win a War of Attrition. You just need 1 or 2 pikes and 4 or 5 calvalry per pile. The cavalry run out fo the pile piliage a tile, and run back into the stack of pikes. Keeping the calvary safe. The downside's is that if they are at war with somone else then that civ will have an EASY time taking the first civs cities and that once you capture their territory you will have to rebuild it all.
(Example: Your egypt, the enemy is Rome, greece and rome are at war. You commit a war of attrition on Rome and greece takes them over.)
When should you war and what type should you do??? Well lets say your Egypt again. And you are smashing the babalonians, who are alot bigger and stronger than you. What you would want to do is send a stack of 15 or so pikes to their capital and fortify them on a moutain. They AI will consider that the biggest threat in the world and will try to smash that stack to dust. They will lose MANY MANY units. While they are smashing the stack of pikes you pillage their country with calvalry. When all their cities are size 1, and their military has deserted them, you can easily capture their territory and claim it as your own. Then sue for peace or finish them off.
If you had tried to Zerg Rush them you would have a long, hard, drawn out war where the AI may take some of your cities. And you will lose many many units. Possibly causing you to switch to another form of government (if your a republic or democracy) or sending you into anarchy!
If you were the babalonians then it wouldve been wise to Zerg Rush egypt. They were smaller and more compact. You might've been able to smash them in one turn with enough units.
Also, there are other types of "battle". (i dont call it war, because you are trying to do one thing, like get a a tech for peace. or take their oil square. Or capture a city with a GW.) For those i would reccomend you see the other articles in the war acadamy. Or just click the links below.
I hope this atl east helps one person. Thanks.
http://www.civfanatics.com/doc/civ3/cracker/japan_campaign/
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_railroad_intrusion.shtml
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_generals_of_warfare.shtml
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_demo_war.shtml
EDIT: I edited a few spelling errors that i noticed and dropped one number down to a more normal number. I myself go overboard on military units. Most people use less than me.
In a conquest game there are two "types" of war. The Zerg Rush and a War of Attrition. In a Zerg Rush you simply take alot of Tanks MA MI and other units and throw them at enemy cities. The upside is you *WILL* win by sheer numbers. The downside is that it costs an ungodly ammount of gold. You very well may need upwards of 150 - 300 units. Depending on the Civ your going after and how big they are. Along with what they have and how far ahead or behind they are.
The Second type of war is the War of Attrition, in this type of war you simply pillage every tile possible and starve a civ down to nothing. It kills their production, their income, their population, and possiblely decends them into anarchy. When they run out of gold their military will desert them. The upside of this type of war is that you lose few units.(and thus have less WW) and you destroy an entire civ. Also, it does not take many units to win a War of Attrition. You just need 1 or 2 pikes and 4 or 5 calvalry per pile. The cavalry run out fo the pile piliage a tile, and run back into the stack of pikes. Keeping the calvary safe. The downside's is that if they are at war with somone else then that civ will have an EASY time taking the first civs cities and that once you capture their territory you will have to rebuild it all.
(Example: Your egypt, the enemy is Rome, greece and rome are at war. You commit a war of attrition on Rome and greece takes them over.)
When should you war and what type should you do??? Well lets say your Egypt again. And you are smashing the babalonians, who are alot bigger and stronger than you. What you would want to do is send a stack of 15 or so pikes to their capital and fortify them on a moutain. They AI will consider that the biggest threat in the world and will try to smash that stack to dust. They will lose MANY MANY units. While they are smashing the stack of pikes you pillage their country with calvalry. When all their cities are size 1, and their military has deserted them, you can easily capture their territory and claim it as your own. Then sue for peace or finish them off.
If you had tried to Zerg Rush them you would have a long, hard, drawn out war where the AI may take some of your cities. And you will lose many many units. Possibly causing you to switch to another form of government (if your a republic or democracy) or sending you into anarchy!
If you were the babalonians then it wouldve been wise to Zerg Rush egypt. They were smaller and more compact. You might've been able to smash them in one turn with enough units.
Also, there are other types of "battle". (i dont call it war, because you are trying to do one thing, like get a a tech for peace. or take their oil square. Or capture a city with a GW.) For those i would reccomend you see the other articles in the war acadamy. Or just click the links below.
I hope this atl east helps one person. Thanks.
http://www.civfanatics.com/doc/civ3/cracker/japan_campaign/
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_railroad_intrusion.shtml
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_generals_of_warfare.shtml
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_demo_war.shtml
EDIT: I edited a few spelling errors that i noticed and dropped one number down to a more normal number. I myself go overboard on military units. Most people use less than me.
} My final total unit count was about 125 but about 30% of that was actually attacking. Most were workers or outdated units for police. My main attack force 20 to 35 elephants (then cavalry once mil trad was discovered) with a handful of pikes/muskets to hold ground and about 8 catapults/cannon to weaken defenders. Once the adversaries attack units (ie, knights, cav, medeval infantry) are decimated, then it's only a matter of time till the cities fall. The AI rarely has enough pik's/muskets fortified to hold out against 8-10 knights/cavalry stack. During the ancient age, 8-10 horses with swordsman/archer support make a great attack force. Just remember to keep pumping out veteran units while attacking to replenish those that are lost. Also, don't be afraid to enlist some temporary help from another civ to split the enemy's focus.
, I don't think you'll need to wait to build up 150-300 attack troops. Generally speaking, with only 1 of your 32 core city groups, and assuming an average of 15spt in each city, you'll be able to produce 6 calvery per turn (32/(80/15))which should be fast enough to replenish your attack force. By IA, if those 32 are averaging 30spt, then you should be making about 9 tanks per turn (32/(100/30)). With these kinds of numbers, it should be smooth sailing if you start with 1/10th of the qty suggested. 
. By the time they got to the last resource they were cut to pieces - only about 5 left out of the entire stack...although they did divert a large proportion of enemy Cavalry to them instead of my main offensive force of Cavalry. Losing so many units though is just not efficient. Esp when I got about 3 defensive GL's in that one escapade. They all died cos I couldnt get them out!