Hooray
Civ3 Cartographer
Got it. Things are getting pretty busy for me now, but I'll try to play my turns tonight.
HRY2 - Jobless in Entremont
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ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Do NOT start a war with the Iroqi over the next 20 turns; WW will kick back in immediately, and our Democracy will not be able to sustain it. If you feel the need to 
, I recommend India as a target, but keep your objectives to within 10 turns; longer than that, and we'll either have to pump up Lux (and thus cut science), or MM the cities where they can't grow. Getting Bach helped us significantly.
I would try to get muskets to replace all the cities with Cav as the Cav is our best offensive unit at this time and wasting it in defense is, well, a waste. However, despite my conquering leanings, we may want to spend some time in builder mode (shouldn't be too hard as four more players get to go before Harleqin and myself) and take advantage of our 7 luxes and Democracy to really build up....oh, and get factories if you're able.
Did I mention not selling the coal?
, I recommend India as a target, but keep your objectives to within 10 turns; longer than that, and we'll either have to pump up Lux (and thus cut science), or MM the cities where they can't grow. Getting Bach helped us significantly.I would try to get muskets to replace all the cities with Cav as the Cav is our best offensive unit at this time and wasting it in defense is, well, a waste. However, despite my conquering leanings, we may want to spend some time in builder mode (shouldn't be too hard as four more players get to go before Harleqin and myself) and take advantage of our 7 luxes and Democracy to really build up....oh, and get factories if you're able.
Did I mention not selling the coal?
Hooray
Civ3 Cartographer
I know, I know.
I think I'll just sit back and build for a while. That should make things easier for the peaceful players. At the rate we're going, the peaceful players are gonna have a hard time reaching their desired victory conditions.
I think I'll just sit back and build for a while. That should make things easier for the peaceful players. At the rate we're going, the peaceful players are gonna have a hard time reaching their desired victory conditions.
Not all peaceful players have a problem with wars, remember I'm the mad Scientist 
totally 
(and I still suspect that our rivals have secret technology in their cities...) Nice workaround, eh
Yeah, that space race, cultural and diplomatic victory might become a bit hard with domination in sight
totally (and I still suspect that our rivals have secret technology in their cities...) Nice workaround, eh Yeah, that space race, cultural and diplomatic victory might become a bit hard with domination in sight
Hooray
Civ3 Cartographer
You're free to do anything you want to prevent the other victory conditions. I can think of a few ways to prevent a domination victory...
Hooray
Civ3 Cartographer
Pre-turn: Move some stuff around. Start Military Academy in Entremont. Will probably switch that to Factory soon.
1160 AD: The Iroquois kick out our leftover troops.
Ironborough Cav-> Cav, Tolosa Market -> Library
Furtown Market -> Library
Hurry some Temples in conquered lands.
1170: Industrialization researched! Nationalism started.
Hlobane Temple -> Court, Cattaraugus Temple -> Court
Intombe Temple -> Court
Several core cities switch to Factories. Rush a few more Temples.
1180: Zimbabwe Temple -> Court, New York Court -> Market
Mpondo Temple -> Court, Remote Outpost Court -> Market
Oka Temple -> Court, Glanum Market -> Musket
1190: Chicago Forbidden Palace (finally) -> Market, Verulamium Musket -> Bank
Agedincum Bank -> Factory, Burdigala Musket -> Library
Xochicalco Court -> Aqueduct, Ratae Coritanorum Cav -> Musket
1200: Lgdunum Factory -> Uni
Hurry Factory in Entremont.
1210: Entremont Factory -> Coal Plant
Mauch Chunk Temple -> Court, Buffalo Court -> Bank
1220: WM trade with the Iroquois.
Boston Aqueduct -> Court, Verulamium Musket -> Bank
Ratae Coritanorum Musket -> Banl
1230: Nationalism researched! Medicine due in 5 turns.
Philadelphia Market -> Library, Teotihuacan Library -> Court
Swazi Temple -> Court, Ganogeh Temple -> Court
1240: Chicago Market -> Library, Miami Market -> Court
Burdigala Library -> Factory, Furtown Library -> Bank
Upgrade all the old Pikemen for 900g.
1250: Entremont Coal Plant -> Universal Suffrage
Tolosa Library -> Bank
Notes: Start prebuilds somewhere for TOE and Hoover's.
Muskets need to be upgraded. We just don't have the money for it yet. (I spent it all...)
The Save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/HRY2_1250_AD.SAV
1160 AD: The Iroquois kick out our leftover troops.
Ironborough Cav-> Cav, Tolosa Market -> Library
Furtown Market -> Library
Hurry some Temples in conquered lands.
1170: Industrialization researched! Nationalism started.
Hlobane Temple -> Court, Cattaraugus Temple -> Court
Intombe Temple -> Court
Several core cities switch to Factories. Rush a few more Temples.
1180: Zimbabwe Temple -> Court, New York Court -> Market
Mpondo Temple -> Court, Remote Outpost Court -> Market
Oka Temple -> Court, Glanum Market -> Musket
1190: Chicago Forbidden Palace (finally) -> Market, Verulamium Musket -> Bank
Agedincum Bank -> Factory, Burdigala Musket -> Library
Xochicalco Court -> Aqueduct, Ratae Coritanorum Cav -> Musket
1200: Lgdunum Factory -> Uni
Hurry Factory in Entremont.
1210: Entremont Factory -> Coal Plant
Mauch Chunk Temple -> Court, Buffalo Court -> Bank
1220: WM trade with the Iroquois.
Boston Aqueduct -> Court, Verulamium Musket -> Bank
Ratae Coritanorum Musket -> Banl
1230: Nationalism researched! Medicine due in 5 turns.
Philadelphia Market -> Library, Teotihuacan Library -> Court
Swazi Temple -> Court, Ganogeh Temple -> Court
1240: Chicago Market -> Library, Miami Market -> Court
Burdigala Library -> Factory, Furtown Library -> Bank
Upgrade all the old Pikemen for 900g.
1250: Entremont Coal Plant -> Universal Suffrage
Tolosa Library -> Bank
Notes: Start prebuilds somewhere for TOE and Hoover's.
Muskets need to be upgraded. We just don't have the money for it yet. (I spent it all...)
The Save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/HRY2_1250_AD.SAV
Generalissimo
Chieftain
Hooray, that seems to be the 1250 BC save. Could you post the 1250 AD?
Hooray
Civ3 Cartographer
That's...certainly quite odd.
This should be the right save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/HRY2_1250_AnnoDomini.SAV
This should be the right save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/HRY2_1250_AnnoDomini.SAV
Generalissimo
Chieftain
Pre Turn:
Lower Science 10% to make a little more cash while still getting Medicine in 3 turns.
1255 AD 1
Railroaded some areas. Most of the cities are connected so I focused railroading our industrial center to make sure we will be able to get the next few wonders.
1260 AD 2
Korea makes some strange moves North of our newly anexed area.
1265 AD 3
We research Medicine, start researching Electricity at 50% science.
1270 AD 4
zzzzz
1275 AD 5
Eboracum completes Coal Plant and starts Military Academy.
1280 AD 6
zzzz
1285 AD 7
zzzz
1290 AD 8
India builds Shakespear's Theater
1295 AD 9
zzzz
1300 AD 10
Discover Electricity. Scientific Method in 4 turns.
All of the cities except four are hooked up to the rail network. All of hte productive cities are mostly railroaded with factories and many new banks and libraries were constructed. There are still one or two new cities with calvery, but the riflemen replacements for them should be finished shortly.http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/HRY2_1300_AD.SAV
Lower Science 10% to make a little more cash while still getting Medicine in 3 turns.
1255 AD 1
Railroaded some areas. Most of the cities are connected so I focused railroading our industrial center to make sure we will be able to get the next few wonders.
1260 AD 2
Korea makes some strange moves North of our newly anexed area.
1265 AD 3
We research Medicine, start researching Electricity at 50% science.
1270 AD 4
zzzzz
1275 AD 5
Eboracum completes Coal Plant and starts Military Academy.
1280 AD 6
zzzz
1285 AD 7
zzzz
1290 AD 8
India builds Shakespear's Theater
1295 AD 9
zzzz
1300 AD 10
Discover Electricity. Scientific Method in 4 turns.
All of the cities except four are hooked up to the rail network. All of hte productive cities are mostly railroaded with factories and many new banks and libraries were constructed. There are still one or two new cities with calvery, but the riflemen replacements for them should be finished shortly.http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/HRY2_1300_AD.SAV
Hooray
Civ3 Cartographer
From leha:
Sorry to see that she has to go. We'll miss you!
And now we need a new Diplomat.....
Any lurkers out there up for the job?
Sorry to see that she has to go. We'll miss you!
And now we need a new Diplomat.....
Any lurkers out there up for the job?
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
@Hooray...not much point, as I feel this game will be over before UN is built...
At least, if I have anything to do about it
At least, if I have anything to do about it
Hooray
Civ3 Cartographer
You're probably right.....
Well if no one takes the job, I'll just dump the extra responsibility onto the Builder. Heh heh.
Well if no one takes the job, I'll just dump the extra responsibility onto the Builder. Heh heh.
Turn 0- Looking good, I upgraded musketmen (420gold or something like that)
Turn 1- Shuffling workers, Cavalry completed in some cities>Cavalry
Turn 2- Bapedi: Temple>Rifleman, Lugdunum: Rifleman>Cannon (finished in 1 turn and artillery is effective against cities), Miami: Library>Bank, Eboracum builds Military Academy [dance] >Army
Turn 3- Entremont finishes Universal Suffrage [dance] >Cavalry, Cavalry>Cavalry in many cities
Turn 4- Scientific Method> Replaceable Parts (6) (ToE in 7 turns in Eboracum), Lugdunum pre-building for Hoover Dam (3rd highest production in Celtic Empire)
Turn 5- Ulundi: Courthouse>Marketplace, Cavalry>Cavalry in many cities, pollution near Entremont
Turn 6- Philadelphia: University>Bank, Buffalo: University>Factory, Again cavalry>cavalry
Turn 7- Korea and Indians signed MPP, Cavalry>Cavalry , there was already 40 units in stack so I moved the stack to iron hill, new stack to the previous place
Turn 8- Isandhlwana: Courthouse>Marketplace, Cavalry>Cavalry, Cleaning pollution
Turn 9- Cavalry>Cavalry
Turn 10- Replaceable Parts> Atomic Theory, Turn Science slider to 0% (ToE in 2 turns, pollution made 1 turn more), 43 Riflemen upgraded to Infantry (430 gold), shuffling workers.
Everything is going well, Im not sure if I still have turns left after this
Save
Turn 1- Shuffling workers, Cavalry completed in some cities>Cavalry
Turn 2- Bapedi: Temple>Rifleman, Lugdunum: Rifleman>Cannon (finished in 1 turn and artillery is effective against cities), Miami: Library>Bank, Eboracum builds Military Academy [dance] >Army
Turn 3- Entremont finishes Universal Suffrage [dance] >Cavalry, Cavalry>Cavalry in many cities
Turn 4- Scientific Method> Replaceable Parts (6) (ToE in 7 turns in Eboracum), Lugdunum pre-building for Hoover Dam (3rd highest production in Celtic Empire)
Turn 5- Ulundi: Courthouse>Marketplace, Cavalry>Cavalry in many cities, pollution near Entremont
Turn 6- Philadelphia: University>Bank, Buffalo: University>Factory, Again cavalry>cavalry
Turn 7- Korea and Indians signed MPP, Cavalry>Cavalry , there was already 40 units in stack so I moved the stack to iron hill, new stack to the previous place
Turn 8- Isandhlwana: Courthouse>Marketplace, Cavalry>Cavalry, Cleaning pollution
Turn 9- Cavalry>Cavalry
Turn 10- Replaceable Parts> Atomic Theory, Turn Science slider to 0% (ToE in 2 turns, pollution made 1 turn more), 43 Riflemen upgraded to Infantry (430 gold), shuffling workers.
Everything is going well, Im not sure if I still have turns left after this
Save
Harleqin
Hippo Power
Got it
Harleqin
Hippo Power
Preturn: Everybody has nationalism, so no easy targets there. India lacks saltpetre though and can thus only counter with elephants. They look like a good target. I wake up the cavalry and move them to the Indian border. The jungle means that we need to break through at Karachi though. Sign MPP with England for some backline protection.
Early: Declare war on India. Time to lay the smack down Korea join in with India. I not the Koreans have a MPP with the Iro, so well just defend against them at first. We take Karachi. We build the ToE and take the usual path. England declares on Korea. Calcutta falls along with Kolhapur. Iros declare on the English. No matter. We can handle three fronts.
1365 AD sees Delhi, Lahore and Jaipur fall. To help out our English friends we trade them horses for Free Artistry, 12 gold and 15 gpt.
Middle: We get involved with the Iros. Great
We clear a bunch of Iro cavs. Gayagahee, Bombay and raise a small Iro settlement. Frustratingly both Bangalore and Madras holds. Later Tyendenaga falls.
Late: Niagara Falls, Ngome and the glue factory known as Bangalore. St. Regis falls in the late years along with Allegheny, Madras, Bengal and Umfolozi.
ChrTh. There should be plenty of troops in Ngome and the captured cities around the Iro capital to allow you to make a deadly push.
The dominating Celts
Early: Declare war on India. Time to lay the smack down
Korea join in with India. I not the Koreans have a MPP with the Iro, so well just defend against them at first. We take Karachi. We build the ToE and take the usual path. England declares on Korea. Calcutta falls along with Kolhapur. Iros declare on the English. No matter. We can handle three fronts. 1365 AD sees Delhi, Lahore and Jaipur fall. To help out our English friends we trade them horses for Free Artistry, 12 gold and 15 gpt.
Middle: We get involved with the Iros. Great
We clear a bunch of Iro cavs. Gayagahee, Bombay and raise a small Iro settlement. Frustratingly both Bangalore and Madras holds. Later Tyendenaga falls. Late: Niagara Falls, Ngome and the glue factory known as Bangalore. St. Regis falls in the late years along with Allegheny, Madras, Bengal and Umfolozi.
ChrTh. There should be plenty of troops in Ngome and the captured cities around the Iro capital to allow you to make a deadly push.
The dominating Celts
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Turn 0 -- 1400 AD
ChrTh V, the Bored, decides the world bores him with its antics. Therefore, he decides he needs to eliminate as much as the world as possible.
I take Hyderabad
I get a GL, decide against rushing Hoover since we're only 3 turns away. Build an Army, switch Eboracum to a Cav
Turn 1 -- 1405 AD
War Weariness kicks in, but with the MPP in place, we can't make peace with anyone...not that I'd want to.
We take Chittagong
We take Salamanca. We gain 12 workers, and Newton's University, Oracle, Sistine Chapel, and the Hanging Gardens! BOO-YEAH!
Turn 2 -- 1410 AD
We take Umtata ... India is a OCC
Oil Springs falls
Caughnawaga falls
We take Taejon
Turn 3 -- 1415 AD
We complete Hoover Dam
We take Tonawanda
We trade all of the useless techs to England to get Espy and Comm and a whole lotta gold. I start Intel Agency in Entremont.
IT:
SALAMANCA FLIPS...BOTH ARMIES WERE HEALING THEREIN!
Turn 4 -- 1420 AD
We take Kahnawake
We take Centralia
We take Inchon
IT:
India and England sign peace
Turn 5 -- 1425 AD
I make peace with India as well. Get Corporation out of it.
Chondote falls. Iroqi are no more.
Chonju falls.
IT:
England and Korea sign peace...of course, since we're in a MPP...
England and Korea are back at war
Turn 6 -- 1430 AD
Everyone loves the King!
We raze Seoul
Turn 7 -- 1435 AD
We take Pyongyang
ChrTh the bored is bored ... so he hits Shift-Enter
Why, you might ask?
Here's the save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/HRY2_1435AD.SAV
Note that it's at the beginning of 1435AD, so if you want the score, you're either going to have to take Pyongyang or finagle some tiles from somewhere else...
ChrTh the Bored is sad, as he did not get a Conquest victory. He blames his forebears, who united with England...since we couldn't fight 'em, we couldn't get to the island...
ChrTh V, the Bored, decides the world bores him with its antics. Therefore, he decides he needs to eliminate as much as the world as possible.
I take Hyderabad
I get a GL, decide against rushing Hoover since we're only 3 turns away. Build an Army, switch Eboracum to a Cav
Turn 1 -- 1405 AD
War Weariness kicks in, but with the MPP in place, we can't make peace with anyone...not that I'd want to.
We take Chittagong
We take Salamanca. We gain 12 workers, and Newton's University, Oracle, Sistine Chapel, and the Hanging Gardens! BOO-YEAH!
Turn 2 -- 1410 AD
We take Umtata ... India is a OCC
Oil Springs falls
Caughnawaga falls
We take Taejon
Turn 3 -- 1415 AD
We complete Hoover Dam
We take Tonawanda
We trade all of the useless techs to England to get Espy and Comm and a whole lotta gold. I start Intel Agency in Entremont.
IT:
SALAMANCA FLIPS...BOTH ARMIES WERE HEALING THEREIN! Turn 4 -- 1420 AD
We take Kahnawake
We take Centralia
We take Inchon
IT:
India and England sign peace
Turn 5 -- 1425 AD
I make peace with India as well. Get Corporation out of it.
Chondote falls. Iroqi are no more.
Chonju falls.
IT:
England and Korea sign peace...of course, since we're in a MPP...
England and Korea are back at warTurn 6 -- 1430 AD
Everyone loves the King!
We raze Seoul
Turn 7 -- 1435 AD
We take Pyongyang
ChrTh the bored is bored ... so he hits Shift-Enter
Why, you might ask?
Here's the save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/HRY2_1435AD.SAV
Note that it's at the beginning of 1435AD, so if you want the score, you're either going to have to take Pyongyang or finagle some tiles from somewhere else...
ChrTh the Bored is sad, as he did not get a Conquest victory. He blames his forebears, who united with England...since we couldn't fight 'em, we couldn't get to the island...
Harleqin
Hippo Power
Hehe... blame all you will I was more concerned with you razing captured cities to avoid domination....including all the former Indian cities.
Great work everyody
I was more concerned with you razing captured cities to avoid domination....including all the former Indian cities. Great work everyody
Generalissimo
Chieftain
yay!
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