I wish I had played Civ 4 before Civ 5

[seaofsorrow]

Civ 5 became a really boring game after 10 games or so, so I decided to buy Civ 4 since it is considered a better game. Unfortunately I could not bring myself to play Civ 4, I mean the game is so hard on the eyes and it is such a hassle to anything in it, the icons are so small and everything is hidden. Oh well, here I go back to SupCom.

 

[firecat318]

Gameplay > Graphics

 

[Bill Bisco]

Gameplay > Graphics

This *5

 

[scratchthepitch]

Gameplay > Graphics

That's why I never cared for Civ4. They sacrificed good gameplay to the eye candy aspect of the game. Unfortunately, they did a poor job on the eye candy also.

 

[Aristos]

Civ 5 became a really boring game after 10 games or so, so I decided to buy Civ 4 since it is considered a better game. Unfortunately I could not bring myself to play Civ 4, I mean the game is so hard on the eyes and it is such a hassle to anything in it, the icons are so small and everything is hidden. Oh well, here I go back to SupCom.

My recommendation: be patient.

You are on the right track since you admitted your own mistake; half the problem is solved (you wouldn't believe the proportion of people unable to make this first step...).

You have to gradually accept that you have been poisoned with mediocrity. Yes, civ0.5 is the personification of mediocrity in the context of the Civilization franchise. It is like a virus, and you contracted it. You will have to work your way out, but it can be done.

Keep playing Civ4 BTS, read some brilliant advice in the War Academy in the civ4 forums. Keep discovering Civ4. With time, you will see the light, and recognize the treasure that you cannot miss.

After a while, you will reckon that even the graphics of civ4 are superior, a little outdated maybe, but far superior in terms of immersion (do you see "dancing" trees, active mines, turning mills, etc in civ0.5???).

Be patient. Patience is the virtue of the vissionaries. Do not miss the gem out.

Enjoy,

 

[kelemvor]

I say screw starting with civ 4 after playing civ 5, go back to Civ 2! The graphics are way more primitive, but easier on the eyes i think. Nice green grassland and brown plains with units that move around at the speed of light. Civ 2 is the perfect game to get you started with traditional civ mechanics, the gameplay isn't as complex as Civ IV BTS but definitely has an addiction that Civ V doesn't have.

 

[b.orchid]

I also think the UI of civ 4 is a lot better then civ 5. The view city screen is better and you generally just have more information easily accessible at a glance. I find the UI in civ 5 really clunky and still pretty buggy sometimes too.

 

[Artophwar]

Graphics bad in Civ4?? I find a lot of the graphics are actually much better. Rivers, roads, railways, tradepost/cottage, jungle all look better to me in Civ4. Even the terrain is not that much different and I am running DX11 on an ATI 5970 at maxed settings.

But I do like Civ5, with a few mods added. I like the combat system way better though I wish that in friendly and neutral territory you could have like 2 units per tile to allow easier movement. Roadblocks become a big issue.

 

[LordTC]

1UPT is better until you realize how gamey it is.

1. Try playing on a world map and seeing the longbows shoot from London to Paris (It's rather jarring and mood-breaking). Same for cannons and what not.. a ranged unit should not be able to fire on all of England pre-modern Era, and you shouldn't be shooting across the channel before rocketry.

2. The absolutely awful AI pathfinding, and the pain of microing units around the map.

3. The fact that the AI will move all its units in a specific order instead of an optimal order.

4. The fact that the AI can't decide adequately when to provide flanking support and when not to.

5. The fact that the AI doesn't understand the terrain penalties and will move units into places where they will get absolutely demolished. The -33% baseline on open terrain is pretty crushing, the AI doesn't understand that it needs to be attacking rather than defending in these situations, and with rivers ending movement for the turn humans can exploit terrain leaving the AI in horrid shape. Also the open terrain penalty isn't even a good improvement for multiplayer, because it magnifies the importance of click-races (yuck to simultaneous turns) by giving the attacker huge bonuses.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Civ IV has a better UI than 5 because more things are mapped to hotkeys and you can play it more rapidly, but I'll grant you that the IV UI leaves a lot to be desired too...interface/controls are a long-standing weakness in the franchise.

 

[lynxxyarly]

ITT: more people who don't like civ 5 making more useless threads about how civ 4 is so much better.

Cool.

 

[SuperJay]

ITT: more people who don't like civ 5 making more useless threads about how civ 4 is so much better.

Cool.

Also in this thread: Rabid fans fire off predictable knee-jerk responses before actually reading the posts. Film at 11.