ICBM joy!

[Particle]

So I found a clever strategy that's probably familiar to all of you vets, but perhaps some newbies might find it interesting.

I was playing late in the modern age and had just landed an army in mighty Egypt. Sure enough Egypt counter-attacked the next turn and killed a good portion of my units. Things were starting to look grim.

The next round I had the SDI completed. I was the first civ to build this. Soooo...I dropped a ton of nukes on the Egyptian army and pretty much obliterated it, letting me waltz into several of his cities.

The next turn the rest of the world declared war on me and launched a retaliatory strike. Thanks to SDI, out of about thirty nukes launched only three got through. Although having three cities nuked is no joy, it was more than made up by the cities and resources I swiped from Egypt.

The moral to all this, kids, is that nukes work best when you're at war and are the only civ with SDI.

 

[smallstepforman]

I hope you had enough nukes for everyone else.

 

[Zouave]

All of your troops in Egypt should have died of radiation poisoning.


This is why I hate nukes in this game.

 

[MightyMac]

NO point to nuking when you then have to fight the rest of the world. Should have planned better and not gotten your army wiped out.

 

[Particle]

Originally posted by MightyMac
NO point to nuking when you then have to fight the rest of the world. Should have planned better and not gotten your army wiped out.

Well since I had a whole continent to myself I wasn't really worried about the other civs invading me. SDI protected me pretty well from their nukes.

If you drop the nukes far enough away from your army, your army should be safe. In any event, I had transports standing by with more troops. I needed a big army to sucker theirs into gathering together for my ICMBs. Once their army was gone, I offlaoded the rest of my units and had my pick of Egypt's cities!

 

[GenMarshall]

Origanly posted by Particle
So I found a clever strategy that's probably familiar to all of you vets, but perhaps some newbies might find it interesting.

I was playing late in the modern age and had just landed an army in mighty Egypt. Sure enough Egypt counter-attacked the next turn and killed a good portion of my units. Things were starting to look grim.

The next round I had the SDI completed. I was the first civ to build this. Soooo...I dropped a ton of nukes on the Egyptian army and pretty much obliterated it, letting me waltz into several of his cities.

The next turn the rest of the world declared war on me and launched a retaliatory strike. Thanks to SDI, out of about thirty nukes launched only three got through. Although having three cities nuked is no joy, it was more than made up by the cities and resources I swiped from Egypt.

The moral to all this, kids, is that nukes work best when you're at war and are the only civ with SDI.

Talk about Mutualy Assured Destruction . But what if Every one has the SDI small wonder .

 

[Particle]

Originally posted by CivGeneral


Talk about Mutualy Assured Destruction . But what if Every one has the SDI small wonder .

That's why you do it before anyone else gets it!

 

[Davidious]

i agree (get globle warming and take down every one with you)

 

[Hades]

Each AI will probably send you an ICBM every 8-10 turns. The statistics of SDI is 75% protection and the AIs will attack your most productive cities first, so eventually, each one of your major city will be hit. So either you send an ICBM to EACH of the AI city in one turn or don't bother to include them in your attack at all. Next time when you plan another D-day landing on Egypt, do tag along a few Armies of MI. I have once send out 10 Armies (3 MI, 7 MA) to capture an AI city and in one turn the counter-attacked with 80 MI and 20 tanks. I didn't lose one single unit.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

Originally posted by Zouave
All of your troops in Egypt should have died of radiation poisoning.


This is why I hate nukes in this game.

Civ 3 bashing AGAIN? Shame on you.

 

[DAKjungF]

I was playing aztecs on a large size map, with two continents, where aztecs, england, germany, babylon, china, and russia shared one continent.

One day, babylon decided to declare war upon me. I was weaker than them in force, but my cities was well built up. It was in the start of the industrious area, and babylon was my neighbor.

They captured 3 cities before they started to want peace. I refused, and while that, I prepared a large counterassault against them. I aimed for tank, and right after I had finished researching tank tech, babylon crippled.

BUT, in the meantime, germany, who had only a few cities, declared war. Also, france declared on me, who was on the other continent. Some spying, and I found out france only had musketeers for defence!

One transport with tanks, and I had conquered the entire french civilization. I had almost the entire continent, with only england left, when india, who had agreed upon a MMP with france, dragged china into the conflict. I loaded my nuclear subs with nukes, and nuked the whole land of china. then I left them to die under heavy bomber assaults.

England then declared war upon me. America, which was the second largest civilization, was still gracious with me, even after the nuclear strike. England had like 4 cities left, and all those was defended with puny rifle men! A nuclear strike more, and a few tanks, and I controlled the entire continent.

The end!

(and if you wonder, I right after that declared war against the rest, and conquested them too!

 

[Allemand]

You need a harder level.

 

[ELK]

can someone please tell me how to build nukes? I control both aluminum and uranium, but none of my 30-odd cities are allowed to build either ICBM's or the nuclear submarine equivalent. I'm about to attack France, late in the game, and my spy reports that France has nukes, so I'd better get them, too, huh? But how?

 

[DAKjungF]

Allemand: Probably.. I play regent... Will move up to monarch when I have gathered some mind-strength..

ELK: Sure. You need to build the Manhattan Project. But, if you say that france already has nukes, then I find it really odd. Are you sure the aluminium and the uranium pop up within the city view?
(or am I wrong?)

 

[Shabbaman]

Originally posted by ELK
can someone please tell me how to build nukes? I control both aluminum and uranium, but none of my 30-odd cities are allowed to build either ICBM's or the nuclear submarine equivalent. I'm about to attack France, late in the game, and my spy reports that France has nukes, so I'd better get them, too, huh? But how?

The AI won't strike with nukes unless you launch them first.

 

[papamaverick]

Yes, at least on Diety w/ the latest patch the AI will attack you with nukes even if you have 'em but don't use 'em. I just attacked Russia, who have been spreading evil communism across the globe, and they launched six ICBMs at me. Fortunately, none of them hit--SDI did it's job. The sucky thing is that I'd already paid everyone to war against them...I could've saved some $$$


I still haven't launched my ICBMs, btw...

 

[ELK]

Shabbaman and DAKjungF: Many thanks for your replies. First, definitely, the AI struck first with nukes: France hit three of my cities with ICBMs, when not only had I not used nukes first, I did not even HAVE any nukes (nor did I have SDI, a sad condition which I've remedied). Also, thanks for the "build the Manhatten Project" advice. And what does it mean that "uranium and aluminum pop up in the city view"? I don't have one city which has both those resources in that city's immediate control area, but in all the city views for all my cities, both uranium and aluminum are displayed at the top left. Is that sufficent to build nukes, once you have the M. Project?

This is the tail end of my first game, so I still am learning the basics. Thanks again for your advice, and for your thoughts on the above comments, if any.

 

[alpha one]

Yes, if you have aliminium and uranium anywhere in your Empire and have cities connected tho them and The Manhatten Project, then you can build nukes.

 

[Moff Jerjerrod]

I used planet busters in Smac/x and I use nukes in Civ3. I'm a big believer in being the first to use nukes. Even if you have no sdi wonder just make sure you have the firepower to seriously curb your opponents retalitory strike.

:tank:

 

[thisismysn20]

What I do is this... I take 3-5 cities depending on the size of my civilization. I make sure they have all buildings and make them producing shields as much as they can. At this time I set them to make ONLY ICBM's. Usually I also have around 6-10 Nuclear subs with Nuke's partolling as well.

So after a few... 100 turns, I have about 15 or so ICBM's in each city, this to me is a nice deterent, as well as an trump that I might need.

One time using this strategy, which I always use. I believe 3-4 civs attacked me. My defense was really getting hammered in the North so I said... enough. I launched about 20 ICBM's hitting their capitols along with their main production cities. I believe I sent a nice message... Of course peace was a little harder to get. But I smiled