Is there a real Lake?

mikezang

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I found it is Coastal when I clicked on Lake terrain, but it has two food different from 1.
It is said that Lake has the same ability as river, city can expend to size 12, but I found city only get to size 6, is this a bug? :(
 
It's not a bug. Are you sure the city is actually on the lake? Are you sure it's actually a lake? (22 tiles = not lake)
 
I have never seen this - landlocked bodies of water always produce two food and permit growth past six

perhaps: do you have a city that is in an ismuth bordering the "lake" and the ocean

I have found that it changes lake properites to ocean
 
Now that's interesting to know, Mordack. I always liked to do that because it creates a sort of safe harbor to stick your boats in. But if it's screwing up food production, I guess I shouldn't do it.
 
Actually it's not that bad

once the properties change you can build harbors, comm dock, off plat, etc. with the cities that border the "internal" ocean and make them just like coastals - you don't lose the safe harbor concept either

you don't find these often on random maps - but when you do they are sweeeet!
 
Tomoyo said:
It's not a bug. Are you sure the city is actually on the lake? Are you sure it's actually a lake? (22 tiles = not lake)
I think I checked it, well, I will check it again tonight.
By the way, what do you mean
Tomoyo said:
(22 tiles = not lake)
?
 
mikezang
I think this is what Tomoyo meant.

From the FAQ

How do i tell if a coast tile is 'fresh water'?

* Right-click it, if it gives two food it is fresh!
* Lakes are seawater or freshwater depending on their size: up to 22 tiles they are fresh!


Not sure what's happening in your game though.
 
Well, I am checking it at the moment.
There is Fresh Water Lake in Civilopedia, but it is showed "Coast" when I click on that inland Lake, then my city with this Lake is only size 6, never exceeded even with full food, what happened?
 

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It must be right on the shore to take advantage of the fresh water. If it is Shanghai you are talking about, it doesn't have the freshwater and will need an aquaduct.
 
Scuffer said:
It must be right on the shore to take advantage of the fresh water. If it is Shanghai you are talking about, it doesn't have the freshwater and will need an aquaduct.
Yes. It must be within the cities 9 squares (city, and hte 8 squares around it)
Is Beijing growing?
 
Are you talking about Shanghai? That city is not adjacent to any lake. The closest lake is 2 tiles away. You need to be right next to a lake to get the fresh water benefit (no need of aqueduct).
 
Well, my memory is backed, the lake has to be on inner ring of city, not outer ring.
Yeah, Beijing is exceeded to size 6, but Shanghai not.
By the way, is it a text missing when I click on lake but show me coast?
 
mikezang said:
Well, my memory is backed, the lake has to be on inner ring of city, not outer ring.
Yeah, Beijing is exceeded to size 6, but Shanghai not.
By the way, is it a text missing when I click on lake but show me coast?

No, it is stating the terrain graphic type, there is no separate graphic for fresh water lake. Then again, since the then game does recognize that the body is fresh water, you would think they could have made the text say fresh water.
 
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