Is there a way to find which city built the mind flower?

[akjone02]

So the civ occupying a private island on the other side of the world has built the mind flower. He's ahead of my own victory path so I need to stop it. Due to the distances involved I really only have 1 shot at this, so I need to land my army in the right spot. Unfortunately, I don't have a CLUE where on his island the stupid flower is!

Is there any way to at least narrow it down? Can I see which cities have built which wonders like in some of the older civ games?

 

[The Sentinel]

not sure, spies to his cities? maybe get a line of sight over his land? not sure if the mindflower shows up on the map but it should (its a victory wonder so it would make sense). just look at his cities closely you might be able to spot it

Edit: should look like this according to the wiki(click for the mindflower entry, goes to civilization.wikia.com):

 

[Ryoga]

I don't think it should appear, it is enough that you know that a faction has built it. It is up to you then to locate it. And it's up to the faction that has built it to cover its own area with as many satellites as he can to prevent you from scanning it.

 

[akjone02]

Thanks for the replies. I've won by mindflower in other games so I know how it works from the builder's side, I just wondered if there was a good way to locate it. It looks like I'm going to have to pick a city and hope I've chosen wisely.

 

[Ryoga]

Fast units are your friends. It is worth to sacrifice a few by making them scour the enemy land.

 

[vahouth]

"Save the game and load until you find it" comes in mind.

 

[aguliondew]

Normally have one unit that scouts the map all game. The mindflower can be build 5 tiles away from a city. It takes 20 turns on standard against the Apollo AI. So need 3-5 turn to enter enemy territory with a army and kill it. The hover units are your best friends for this.

 

[akjone02]

"Save the game and load until you find it" comes in mind.

Ahh yes, the ultimate civ strategy... reload until you win

 

[Ryoga]

Ahh yes, the ultimate civ strategy... reload until you win

They could add a tech to the tech web and call it "time travel"

Description: You are now entitled to reload from any save state without feeling a cheater.

 

[TetraZim]

They could add a tech to the tech web and call it "time travel"

Description: You are now entitled to reload from any save state without feeling a cheater.

I Love it!

 

[AriochIV]

It's nearly always in the capital.

 

[Agent327]

True. But not always.

So the civ occupying a private island on the other side of the world has built the mind flower. He's ahead of my own victory path so I need to stop it. Due to the distances involved I really only have 1 shot at this, so I need to land my army in the right spot. Unfortunately, I don't have a CLUE where on his island the stupid flower is!

Is there any way to at least narrow it down? Can I see which cities have built which wonders like in some of the older civ games?

You forgot to build a Spy Network?

 

[Resipsa]

It shows you if you can reveal the territory, it takes 3/4 attacks from say battlearmor to kill a fully functional mindflower.

 

[Alkaid]

Since you know the general area where it is, you could gain open borders with that AI and send in an armor unit ahead to scout where on the island it is while your main force follows and makes its way there.

If you have the tech for teleport satellites, if you can't get right to the flower you can try and take the first city you can and then use the new orbital space to place a satellite to keep teleporting reinforcements up to help too.

 

[akjone02]

You forgot to build a Spy Network?

I've got 3 networks in their territory but it doesn't reveal their entire island. I don't see the mindflower on the map anywhere.


I tried for open borders, but the AI refuses any trade for it, even if I try to gift all my energy reserves and all my excess energy per turn. Reminds me of CIV V trading AI sometimes... refuse the trade no matter what. We're neutral in stance btw.

My forces are establishing their beachhead at the capital... let's see how this plays out.

 

[CDegeyter]

And as I found out yesterday. Ranged units cannot destroy it, you have to take it out with Melee.

 

[TetraZim]

And as I found out yesterday. Ranged units cannot destroy it, you have to take it out with Melee.

That was annoying, I had to rethink my entire battle plan mid-war.

 

[AriochIV]

When you're notified that someone has built a wonder, you can click on the notification icon, and the game will move the focus to the city that built it (if you've discovered that city).

You forgot to build a Spy Network?

A covert agent only shows you the first ring of hexes around a city, but a planetary wonder can be in any hex around a city, so you won't always see it.

 

[akjone02]

So, it was an epic battle! I took the advice from earlier and landed at the capital. The flower wasn't there! Fortunately, it was near the adjacent city so I didn't have far to go. Hutama, who built the flower, had an entire mini-continent to himself the whole game so he was easily in the lead score-wise. It took me nearly 15 turns to get an army into position outside his borders (We're just passing through... I swear!) During that time I made every trade I could manage with the other civs in exchange for favors.

D-Day came and I traded in all my favors for declarations of war across the board. I moved in a handful of arbiters and some shepherds loaded with aircraft and started bombarding the flower. Behind them came my Invasion force of Prophets. What do I see heading for me but a group of about a dozen Poseidons!

It takes about 3 volleys each from my ships to down one of his, and I'm losing units 5 to 6 per turn. To make matters worse, he's garrisoned artillery units in the 2 cities flanking the flower. My troops are sacrificial lambs at this point, hitting the shore for no reason other than to take hits from the artillery and buy time for my strike force. My units are barely making headway and I'm down to a single turn before he declares victory.

On my last round my flanking prophets are down and I have a single land unit in range of the flower. I use all my fighters to bombard it down and check my combat odds. Civ tells me the attack is a stalemate. I've got no choice... this is my last turn to try to stop the victory so I move in... and down the flower! The next round the last of my invasion force is destroyed and I pull whatever I can back.

I walked away with 2 Arbiters, 1 Shepherd, 2 aircraft and a prophet... all of them near death. Just made it into allied space before his navy caught up with me. About 5 turns later he demanded peace and about 20 turns after that I won by contact victory.

I know BE has some patching to do, but so far I'm enjoying it

 

[ErichRommel]

So, it was an epic battle! I took the advice from earlier and landed at the capital. The flower wasn't there! Fortunately, it was near the adjacent city so I didn't have far to go. Hutama, who built the flower, had an entire mini-continent to himself the whole game so he was easily in the lead score-wise. It took me nearly 15 turns to get an army into position outside his borders (We're just passing through... I swear!) During that time I made every trade I could manage with the other civs in exchange for favors.

D-Day came and I traded in all my favors for declarations of war across the board. I moved in a handful of arbiters and some shepherds loaded with aircraft and started bombarding the flower. Behind them came my Invasion force of Prophets. What do I see heading for me but a group of about a dozen Poseidons!

It takes about 3 volleys each from my ships to down one of his, and I'm losing units 5 to 6 per turn. To make matters worse, he's garrisoned artillery units in the 2 cities flanking the flower. My troops are sacrificial lambs at this point, hitting the shore for no reason other than to take hits from the artillery and buy time for my strike force. My units are barely making headway and I'm down to a single turn before he declares victory.

On my last round my flanking prophets are down and I have a single land unit in range of the flower. I use all my fighters to bombard it down and check my combat odds. Civ tells me the attack is a stalemate. I've got no choice... this is my last turn to try to stop the victory so I move in... and down the flower! The next round the last of my invasion force is destroyed and I pull whatever I can back.

I walked away with 2 Arbiters, 1 Shepherd, 2 aircraft and a prophet... all of them near death. Just made it into allied space before his navy caught up with me. About 5 turns later he demanded peace and about 20 turns after that I won by contact victory.

I know BE has some patching to do, but so far I'm enjoying it

Seems like you had fun This are the games i also like most when you prevail against all odds in an epic battle