cpikey316_
Chieftain
playing conquests and my bomber just shot down a fighter 
has anyone else seen this?
has anyone else seen this?
Ive never seen that before.......
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DragonRunner
Certified Band Geek
Once or twice. I don't normally get to fighters. My attention span doesn't last that long.
budweiser
King of the Beers
It can happen, its rare though.
Not to thread jack but, I heard an interesting statistic years ago that I have never been able to confirm; B-17s shot down more enemy aircraft over Europe in WWII than any other aircraft. Can anyone confirm this?
Not to thread jack but, I heard an interesting statistic years ago that I have never been able to confirm; B-17s shot down more enemy aircraft over Europe in WWII than any other aircraft. Can anyone confirm this?
wombatoftruth
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I've seen that happen on occaision. You should see what happens if the AI still has fighters trying to intercept stealth bombers. It would probably be better for the AI if the interception didn't happen-in my current game fighters seemed to have about a 1/4 chance of survival, and most of the bombing runs were still successful. I'm sure the RNG was being kind, but it's still pretty satisfying to redline a ground unit and destroy a fighter in the same bombing run.
Tomoyo
Fate
This is very common for me. That's why I build fighters to bomb with.
.wombatoftruth
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budweiser said:
Certainly not true. The German Me-109 is the pretty clear winner here, at least in part due to its introduction prior to the outbreak of hostilities and the fact that it was still being flown in 1945, but also because it was such a well-designed and versatile airframe. For U.S. forces in Europe, the P-51 holds the title, while in the Pacific the U.S. F-6F could claim it. I'm afraid I don't know enough about the battles on the Russian front, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Yak-3 downed more than any other Russian aircraft, and a great many more than the P-51.
B-17 crews may very well have claimed more kills than any other aircraft though, as each aircraft had five men who were dedicated gunners, three more who had guns in addition to other duties, and a pilot and copilot. Any German plane that went down near a formation of B-17s, no matter the cause, be it a B-17, American fighter, German flak, etc. etc. was likley to be claimed by multiple B-17 aircrews. If bomber crews' claims were accurate, the entire Luftwaffe would have been destroyed in the first few weeks of U.S. bombing operations.
Read up on the first U.S. raid on Schweinfurt if you want to see just how effective the B-17 was in air combat when unescorted.
I suppose in Civ, we should all pretend that bomber units include escorting fighters (either that or their defense stat has to be drastically slashed, and an "escort" command created for fighters), otherwise their casualties to enemy fighters would have to be increased dramatically.
The Last Conformist
Irresistibly Attractive
I've practically wiped out AI airforces that way. Small ones, but anyway.
