JJ02-The Mystery Variants

[ngraner42]

Continued the war against Saladin, taking Baghdad. We are almost in position to take Narjan, which is a fantastic city. Pulled Alex into the war and got some gold for a tech.

Converted to Buddhism and have been spreading it. We were on Theocracy without a religion and we have the holy shrine.

The next player may want to work to get the Wheat back into our GP farm without starving out Beshbalik. It is time for the GP farm to make some GP.

T0. Rushed Courthouse in Kohlapur. Rushed Bank in London.
T1. Kohlapur>Library. London>Oxford University. Converted to Buddhism as we were running Theocracy and to further improve relations with Qin.
T2. Buddhism spread to Canterbury. Suicided 4 Cats and then captured Baghdad with no further losses.
T3. zzz.
T4. Rushed Globe Theater in Turfan. Rushed Bank in Karakorum.

We have a "..." stack in Baghdad!



T5. Killed 3 Saladin units attacking Baghdad. York>Bank. Beshbalik>Buddhist Missionary. Karakorum>Cat.
T6. Saladin attacks Karakorum again. Killed 7, Lost 1. Nottingham>Redcoat. New Sarai>Lighthouse. Buddhism spread to Karakorum. I kill off the remaining 6 Saladin units outside Karakorum.
T7. Killed another attacking Saladin Cavalry, but he got a Cavalry in to pillage Baghdad's farm. Baghdad>Granary. Killed off 4 more Saladin units near Baghdad; lost 1 cat.
T8. Chemistry>Economics. Canterbury>Redcoat. Madras finishes Forbidden Palace>Buddhist Monastery. Rushed Bank in York.
T9. York>Cavalry. Beshbalik>Buddhist Missionary. Karakorum>Cat. Traded Qin Philosophy for 390gp. Traded Alexander Education for 440gp and a declaration of war on Saladin.
T10. Saladin sneaked a Cavalry behind our lines, I killed it.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads12/JJ02_AD-1700.Civ4SavedGame

 

[pigswill]

Might be worth looking at tech path of chemistry,steel, steam, railroad coz we have a long windy continent with enemies at both ends; also helps towards assembly line for infantry.

 

[sand]

my internet is fixed so u can slot me back into the rooster

 

[jeejeep]

Sorry, I was busy with relatives. Got it and should be able to play tomorrow.

 

[jeejeep]

Going pretty well. Too many cats, not enough troops, however.

0. Give Alex wheat for his spices.

IT: Chemistry-Steel

1. Moving towards Najran. Kill a stray cat.

2. Qin declares war on Alexander. Najran's longbows and cats have no hope of standing up to our huge stack. Rush forge in Turfan.



3. zzz. Healing.

4. Kill a few more cats. Still healing.

5. Start bombarding Medina. Wait for more troops.

6. Take Medina without losses.

IT: A cav suicides itself into Najran's defenses.

7. Healing. Saladin's cav kills a stray cat, but we get it back next turn with a redcoat.

8. Advancing towards Mecca.

IT: Alex asks us to join the war. We decline.



9. Still advancing.

IT: Steel-Steam.

10. zzz.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads12/JJ02_AD-1730.Civ4SavedGame

 

[jeejeep]

Sand is up. We should be able to conquer Arabia easily. Russia will be the tougher part.

 

[sand]

ok got it will play now.

 

[sand]

well in my turnset i captured 2 sitys mecca and the one east of it. dispite my bad luck. however we are running out of troops suprisingly fast and there is virtually none on peters border. which is getting to strong.

well qin asked for war i declined

i decieded to accpet the world map with nothing to lose

beg harder.

i also changed from beuracracy to vassalage which gave us another 30 fold per tun. aswell as the 2 hitpoints.

in future we need to be fast sall will die in due course but then what. i think the person next turn will need to micro each city.

about where the save is well i hid it somewhere in the post for you to find

 

[Ralph_Jackson]

OK Got it but I seem to be coming up simultaneously in lots of SG's so it will be tomorrow before I can play and report may be delayed till Thursday!

Ralph

 

[Ralph_Jackson]

Elizabeth surveyed her lands, as usual her minions had performed poorly and some would be receiving a rather serve hair cut - from the neck upwards!! Workers were idling and cities had not followed her orders as to what was the priority. (a little MM required)

The war against the Bearded fool up North had proceeded well but was reaching a crucial point, her loyal redcoats had performed well but her Generals advised her that English forces were stretched thin…

Nevertheless she decided to press on with the war even if it involved some risk. Her main forces would consolidate in Damascus with small forces diverted to take Fustar and Kurasan, hopefully Saladin would not realize her true target was Basra, much bigger prize.

Initially the war went well with Fustar taking but leaving her forces very thin there.

The attack on Kurasan was taking longer as her main siege machines were preparing for the assault on Basra leaving little to batter down the walls of the city. Nevertheless it eventually fell

An irritating distraction occurred when her young Paramour in Greece tried to drag her into war with Qin, now she owed Qin no loyalty but nevertheless didn’t the headstrong young fool realize that she had other priorities, Qin’s time might well come but not yet, she was keeping Qin close , closer even than her enemies.

In a surprising development the Trade envy from Russia cam wishing to exchange scientific knowledge, solely in the interest of keeping him off her back she agreed..

Her scientists were now concentrating on Railroads to better mange her empire, but it would take a while..

Just as Basra was ripe for the plucking disaster struck her generals had become over confident and over aggressive allowing Fustart to be retaken by a sneak attack from Saladin, her fury knew no bounds she would have to retake it but where to find the forces….

Just as she was bout to have most f her court beheaded to distract her from her simmering rage at the incompetence of her advisers their necks were spared by the news that Basra had fallen. So be it., now if she could retake Fustar time for a false peace with Saladin might be needed to consolidate her gain.

Eot

Unfortunate I lost Fustar to a sneak attack having only the attacker that had taken it a couple of turns ago in the city. Apologies!!

Basra has fallen and we have forces trying to retake Fustar and need to consider whether to press on and try and finish off Saladin though we are getting a bit thin. Next player to decide. In the hope of finishing Sallie quickly forces are slowly gathering on Peter’s Border

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[sand]

i geuss i should of warned you that saladin keeps trying to go behind the lines with cav to recapture our citys.

 

[Ralph_Jackson]

Yep he got me!!!!


Ralph

 

[pigswill]

And I've got it.

And having looked at it we have probably enough forces to take out Saladin but various units are wounded, different stacks and stackettes all over the place need tidying up. I reckon it'll take several turns to sort out so I'm tempted to go for peace, sort out our stacks and next player steamroller Saladin.

 

[pigswill]

www.civfanatics.net/uploads12/JJ02_AD-1790.Civ4SavedGame

A quiet turnset generally.

1770. Trade with Qin: 5 gold for fur
Trade with Alex: Sugar for corn
Trade with Sal: 280gold for peace.
Checked out economy:could be better, bit of tile reassignment, changed builds, dropped theocracy, jolly expensive and we're running vassalage.
Shaved a couple of turns off researching railroad. Starting moving units around.

1772 zzz

1774 Spotted a GS and a GA hanging around, started them towards London. Might be worth deciding what to do with them. Alex asked us to cancel deals with Qin (they are at war after all), I declined.

1776. Pete declares on Alex.

1778 Basra and Khurasan out of revolt; huge maintenance costs, start courthouses.

1780 zzz

1782 Alex becomes Christian.

1784 Qin and Alex become peaceful with each other.

1786. Basra and Khurasan whip courthouses.

1788 zzz

1790 Peter invites us to attack Alex, we decline.

One turn from railroad, stacks ready to roll vs Sal very soon, slight profit at 60% research. Two GP awaiting allocation.

 

[jeejeep]

Ngraner is up. I think the plan was to send the GA to Arabia, as it seemed to be heading in that direction in my turnset.

 

[sand]

guys can i be skipped for 2 weeks since i'll be on holiday.

 

[ngraner42]

Restarted the war with Saladin. We had a large stack of Cannon, just upgraded from Catapults and I thought it would be easy. The war turned out to be a little tougher than I expected with some give and take action. The net result was we lost 1 city but captured 2 others. Of Saladin's 3 remaining cities 2 are about to fall. I do not have any reconnaissance on the 3rd last city.

The workers have been set to automated rail building.

I did not use the great people. The scientist is probably best used for 3000+ beakers toward Scientific Method, but we are currently researching Democracy for the trade value. We got an extra great artist, which I sent on a long move to Mecca. Bad idea, a Saladin Cavalry killed it . I did not even know what had happened until I looked for the artist. All I knew was that some unit of mine was killed in between turns.

We should finish Saladin off and turn our attentions to the East. After Democracy and Scientific Method, we could really use both Communism and Biology.

T0. Upgraded some Cats. Traded Steel to Peter for Constitution and 1330gp.
T1. Steel>Democracy. Send troops in against Saladin.
T2. Saladin rallies an attack, but we dispatch it with the loss of 2 Cannon.
T3. Discover the Saladin has quite a stack in the small city of Fustat. This war is not going to be as easy as I thought. A couple of the cities we captured from Saladin also go into revolt.



T4. Kufah captured with the loss of 2 Cannon, one at 88%.
T5. A naval invasion by Saladin captures Kurasan. A Great Artist is born in Turfan.
T6. Maneuvering troops.
T7. Begin assault on Fustat.
T8. Fustat captured, 3 of Saladin's ships destroyed.
T9. Attack on Anjar begins.
T10. Cannot quite take Anjar, so I move more troops up. Troops also converge on Kurasan.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads12/JJ02_AD-1810.Civ4SavedGame

 

[jeejeep]

Got it, will probably play today.

 

[jeejeep]

0. Use great scientist in London for an academy there. Use the GA for research of democracy.

IT: A catapult kills a musket but loses to a pikeman.

1. Take Anjar (it only had a maceman defending). Redirect cats near Khurasan to Parthian, as the city is only defended by cavalry, which don't recieve defensive bonuses. Sorry, I forgot to take screenshots of all these battles.

2. Take Khurasan without losses. Get some formerly automated workers up north to improve former Arabian land. I've never understood how the AI's can even stay close in tech with all those farms they build. Do they always run a specialist econ?

3. Democracy-Scientific Method. Advancing on Parthian, Saladin's last city. It is defended by two rifles and two cats.

4. Revolt to Free Market-Free Religion-Emancipation. There was no reason to use the base religious or economic civics. Anarchy is four turns.

5. Bombing Parthian.

6. Take Parthian with the loss of a suicide cannon. Saladin is dead. Give Qin chemistry in exchange for Corporation and 40 gold.

7. Transferring troops to Peter's borders.

8. Without WW to worry about, Culture is reduced to 0%. Science is still at 60% with +39 gpt.

9. Still transferring to Peter's border.

IT: Qin declares war on Alex, who is already at war with Peter. Things should get very complicated when we declare on Peter too.

10. Coming up, Redcoats vs. Cossacks...

We have about 50% land. Qin has 25%, which means that if Alex has ~15%, as I suspect, We will have to conquer a bit of either his or Qin's land also.

The next player can declare pretty much immediatly, after consolidating our forces (they are spread all over the border cities) and deciding which city to attack first.

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[Ralph_Jackson]

Well as far as I can tell with Sand on hols the Roster is..
sand-up (relaxing on Hols)
Ralph Jackson- Up
pigswill On-Deck
ngraner42
jeejeep

So I guess this must be my got it... Will have it done by tuesday evening.

Ralph