Just won... WTH!?!

hi

you might want to try the following:

1. deinstall civ3+patches completely useing "control panel -> Software"
2. open regedit an delete all leftover keys (including atari, civilization and so on)
3. reboot
4. install, patch
5. try it out

i was able to fix a similar error an my machine using this steps

best wishes
prof
 
Sadan01,

I tried disabling Auto-protect. It still crashes, I'm afraid. It made no diffenence. Actually, using hindsight, I don;t think that may have worked anyway, since I created a "dummy" scenario and it worked. As for it being related to that/these particular scenarios, I hope it's not that, because I'll never see the bonus video in-game (yes, I do watch it with the Bink player). But it's not about the reward; it's about the principle. The principle is that there's something wrong with the game, and I want it FIXED! I'm ready to go :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: on my computer, if only Civ III had a neck! But I know it is possible to see the victory screen, because Dbear had it work. I am running Patch v. 1.22, and I haven't been messing with the defaults. I know it couldn't be a CD-ROM issue, because I got Complete last week. What could be different about our systems, that yours should work and mine should not?
 
I have the same problem and I also just got the game last week. Could it be that the most recent distribution of the game is buggy? Does it work for anyone else who recently bought the game?

Also, I did some testing. I can lose a scenario and it will not crash :cry: . Also I can win with regular Civ3 without crashes because it doesn't have the victory score screen.

Also I don't have an antivirus running in the background so that isn't the problem.
 
C3CF14, can you do the following please:

1. Go into the start menu, select Run, and type this in: drwtsn32.exe
2. Click on Ok.
3. At the bottom of the window, you should see an area called "Application Errors". With any luck, you will see one labelled with the installation path to Civ3. Double-click on one of these to open the log.
4. Please copy and paste the log here in a post (and feel free to remove personal information such as your computer name and so forth).

This will give me a good idea what is running in memory at the time of the crash as this may also be causing a problem.

If Dr. Watson has no logs for Civ3, please leave it open and then reopen the save game, let it crash and it should generate a log for you.

I just did another search of the forums and most of these 0xC0000005 errors have been fixed either by reinstalling Civ3 or disabling the anti-virus. I know that is no help to you but I thought I'd let you know. :twitch:
 
C3CFanatic0014 said:
Any other ideas, people? PLEASE!?!

This is just a shot in the dark but have you tried it with your virus protection/Virus shield OFF?
 
C3CFanatic0014 said:
What could be different about our systems, that yours should work and mine should not?

I just saw this ending to your post, you posted on September 10. That's the thing isnt it? In regards to the program (civ3) itself, probably not much. The only difference I can think of would be, like FugitivSisyphus said, is that if it is the latest distro of the game you have bought, does it have problems?

Now a short Sadan01 history lesson :rolleyes: : I first bought Civ3 when it arrived on the shelves here in Aus back in 2001(??!) I think. I played it a little while but had other games to play (such as Civ2). It wasn't until the Conquests expansion arrived on the scene that I bought it (the expansion; it came with PTW too) and then really started to get into Civ3, but I digress :rolleyes: .

What I am trying to say here is that I bought Civ3 vanilla first, and then once Conquests was released, I bought that too. Separate program/expansions. I have never seen nor used Complete so I dont know if it is structured in a similar way - i.e. Install Civ3 vanilla, then use another CDROM to install both PTW and Conquests. Can someone shed some light on this for me i.e. the installation path to get everything installed and working.

This could be the problem but the question has to be asked. If Complete is at issue, then why haven't we seen many more people with similar errors. Well, that brings me to my second major difference.

Even if our computers had exactly the same hardware installed in them, there still can be 1,000's, if not millions of different problems that may arise on your computer but not mine, or vice versa. Patch levels, DLL's, device drivers, missing files, drive corruption or corrupt files to name just but a few. This makes it very difficult to troubleshoot - and keeps me in a job :mischief: ... Now I would guess that your computer is not the same, hardware-wise to mine, and it isnt as you have a 256Mb graphics card whereas mine is a 128Mb Ti4600... Probably different drivers alone just there.

Let me do some poking in the registry and in other things and I'll come back and post something more with what action we can take seeing Dr. Watson doesn't want to help us.

Just 2 quick points however:

Have you run a chkdsk over the drive that has Civ3 installed on it? If you've never used it, let me give you a quick tutorial (skip if you already know how it works - just take note of the options I put in below).

Let's say Civ is installed on the C Drive on your computer (substitute if not on C Drive). Go into the command prompt ("cmd" in the Run box) and type in this: "chkdsk c: /F /R"

Make sure you lose the quotes before typing it in...

The command does the following - tell chkdsk to run over the C Drive. The /F tells it to FIX the errors, instead of just reporting, and the /R tells chkdsk to scan for corrupt sectors on the drive and if found, to move the data out of the sector, mark the sector as bad and then try and recover the lost info.

You will probably be advised that the drive is locked. Press Y and hit return/enter to ask it to do chkdsk on the next restart.

Once it runs, make sure you watch the display for any errors that may appear. It will give you the complete path to the file that is corrupt if it finds any.
 
I also purchased Civilization 3 Complete, and have the exact same problem described at the start of the thread. I tried all the suggestions recommended by others (disabling auto-protect, reinstallation, etc.), and none of it works. I also tried to get an error log with drwtsn32.exe, and none was generated. I also asked for help from the Atari tech support people, and all I got was a cut-and-paste reply with all the same suggestions that haven't worked before.

My question is, does anyone have the Civ3 Complete release that doesn't have this problem? FYI, I don't think the information on the three CDs is 100% identical to Civ3 vanilla, PTW, and Conquests individually, since you must have all 3 to install the game, and the in-game menu is entitled "Civilization 3 Complete". So there's probably a little tweaking going on, but nothing major (I presume). IIRC, it installs version 1.22.
 
Interesting Bonedog. I wonder if we do have a problem with the 'Complete' distro. Knowing what fake-Atari is like, they won't replace it either, although if it was a code-problem, it would be up to Firaxis to fix it. The likelihood of that happening with Civ4 just around the corner? :mischief:

You mentioned "3" CDs? Is that correct? So there is a separate CD for Vanilla, PTW, and Conquests? Geez. Why then release Conquests (with PTW) on just one CDROM?

Edit: I am no programmer/coder etc but whatever the problem is, if it is with the Civ3 complete distro then it has to be something to do with the Civ3Conquests.exe file.

Let's check version info - remember, I installed Civ3 vanilla first, and then loaded the Conquest expansion pack on (which includes PTW), so according to your post Bonedog, our installations are "different" where you use 3 CDs and mine is only 2. Please also note the size, especially for the 'Complete' folks as your 'exe file may be different.

See attachment for version information of Civ3Conquests.exe. One question is have is that I have applied the v1.22 patch but the version of the .exe file is v1.21. Does everyone else have this as well playing Conquests?
 

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Mine says,

File version: 1.22.0.0
Description: Civ3Complete
Copyright: 2001-2004 Atari Inc

And, yeah, Complete comes as 3 disks. The first is "Install/Play", the second "Play the World", and the third "Conquests" (or so it says on the topside). There doesn't appear to be a way to install just vanilla, if you wanted to for some bizarre reason.
 
I will confirm Civ3 Conquests is a three disk install...you cannot install each version separatly via the autostart. I have not really looked at the disk but I am assuming that if each game is on it's separate disk thaen you could do a manual install of just one. I don't recall seeing the messages about each game being on a separate disk in the install though...just insert disk 2 , disk 3 to continue.

I did have problems at first playing Civ3 complete - it was due to the Atari copy protection scheme. I had to completely remove alcohol 120% from my machine...the game will not play if it detects programs it thinks will make a copy of the cd. And I also started to get BSOD's after trying to run civ3 complete before removing alcohol - seems it messed with some registry entries too. I ended up having to re-install XP from a clean backup, and remove Alcohol before installing civ to solve the conflicts. Removing it afterwards casused the BSOD stop errors.

My guess for the 0X5 stop code is that if it is not hardware related it could be due to a conflict with an existing software driver. Video would be number one to check; also besides virus scanners, firewalls or antispy programs running as resididents could be contributors. At this point my advice would be to back up your system, do a clean install of XP, install Civ3 first and see if the problem exists. If so, it is a problem with the Civ3 program or with your hardware or XP. If not, start installing software/devices until you find the one it conflicts with and then determine which is more important to you...of coarse, by this time Civ4 will probably be released so it may be a moot point...;)

On Edit: BTW, only 1,500 (US $ i take it)for a top of the line gaming PC is a bargain...I will usually price one of those at at least 2,800; 3,500 to 4,000 tops.
 
Okay guys, one of you asked if I got this problem in another program. I just did. And guess what it was? A CIV GAME!!! [pissed]

I tried creating a custom scenario is Civ II ToT. It crashed, so I restored the default rules. Now, The f---ing thing won't work at all, giving me THE SAME ACCESS ERROR. AARGH!

BTW, I am trying to replace my computer. In US $$$, it will only cost me $1,200 to put it together (e.g., buy the box, buy the motherboard, buy the HDD...) It will take a while to raise the money, however. I'm selling the computer I've got for $700, but the money will come in about $60 at a time till Christmas (December 25). Then, I'll save up the remaining $250 - $300 by myself. I should have it assembled by mid-January. I'm only 14 years old, so that's pretty good. :king:

P.S. I do know how to assemble a computer... learned how by fixing the problems I make... :lol:
 
C3CFanatic0014 said:
Okay guys, one of you asked if I got this problem in another program. I just did. And guess what it was? A CIV GAME!!! [pissed]

That was me... ;)

C3CFanatic0014 said:
I tried creating a custom scenario is Civ II ToT. It crashed, so I restored the default rules. Now, The f---ing thing won't work at all, giving me THE SAME ACCESS ERROR. AARGH!

I would have to say that due to this occurring, it sounds like it is computer-specific. Driver related? Hardware related? Difficult to say. If you have partitioned your HDD, why not do a temporary installation of Windows to another partition, get it all setup with the drivers you would have to install after Windows is installed (such as the video drivers etc) and then install Civ3 complete on again. Make sure nothing else is installed. May also be a good idea to install DirectX 9.0c, even if it is already installed and then try the same conquest and see if it works. BTW, dont bother activating Windows unless you want to continue to use the new installation as you will probably want to delete this new Windows installation after you've tested.

C3CFanatic0014 said:
BTW, I am trying to replace my computer. In US $$$, it will only cost me $1,200 to put it together (e.g., buy the box, buy the motherboard, buy the HDD...) It will take a while to raise the money, however. I'm selling the computer I've got for $700, but the money will come in about $60 at a time till Christmas (December 25). Then, I'll save up the remaining $250 - $300 by myself. I should have it assembled by mid-January. I'm only 14 years old, so that's pretty good. :king:

P.S. I do know how to assemble a computer... learned how by fixing the problems I make... :lol:

That's how I started to learn years ago on a 386. I broke it and then had to fix it as it would've costed money to get it fixed by someone else. I think that is a very valuable way to learn as it gives you practical experience, instead of just theory.

The amount of MCSE's (Microsoft Certified System Engineer) that I have seen that cannot even create a user account on a domain astounds me. It brings that certification into such disrepute :mad:

BTW, I think that is a great effort at 14 :thumbsup:
 
watorrey said:
Try an OLDER video driver.

Yeah, Go into control panel and right click on your video card and click "properties" and I believe one of the choices is "roll back driver"

Good thought watorrey :goodjob:
 
It IS a good idea, but when I go there, it says, "No backup created". The computer thinks, "Since the driver didn't 'fail' per se, why make a backup?" Besides, I've reinstalled this driver so many times, it might just roll back to the same anyway. I'm going to look for the latest driver, since I think I accidentally only installed a newer DirectX version (9.0c) instead.
 
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