Let's appreciate Shahnameh in this time of upheaval

[Bast]

If you don't know what Shanameh is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahnameh

"How shall a man escape from that which is written; How shall he flee from his destiny?" - Abolqasem Ferdowsi

It is time to stand together with the Iranian people with their proud history and culture in their struggle for justice - one of the central themes in Shahnameh.

 

[RedRalph]

If you don't know what Shanameh is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahnameh

"How shall a man escape from that which is written; How shall he flee from his destiny?" - Abolqasem Ferdowsi

It is time to stand together with the Iranian people with their proud history and culture in their fight.

Which Iranian people? At least 45% voted for Ahmedinajad. Nonetheless, I agree with the sentiment.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Which Iranian people? At least 45% voted for Ahmedinajad.

Since Bast didn't elaborate on the exact details of the fight, I think we are allowed to take our pick. So, it's either the fight of the noble Iranian people against the shameless voter fraud done by the oppressive regime, or the fight of the noble Iranian people against the shameless Western agents who under the false pretext of voter fraud try to gain control of Iran.

 

[GoodGame]

Since Bast didn't elaborate on the exact details of the fight, I think we are allowed to take our pick. So, it's either the fight of the noble Iranian people against the shameless voter fraud done by the oppressive regime, or the fight of the noble Iranian people against the shameless Western agents who under the false pretext of voter fraud try to gain control of Iran.

With all the pent-up hostility in Iran, I'd guess that the issue is much deeper---a fight for more representation in government, rather than just a desire for recounts. Though thanks for suggesting the West might be to blame for that. Guess it means we're just doing our jobs.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Though thanks for suggesting the West might be to blame for that.

I suggest nothing. I merely point out that regardless of whether you are on the side of the Iranian government or the protesters, you are still able to stand together with the Iranian people in their fight.

 

[Bronx Warlord]

I recall reading about the Soviet occupation of Iran with the British during the war. And of how the Soviets diden't want to leave afterwards. Ah the good old days when things were a bit more up front eh?

 

[GoodGame]

I suggest nothing. I merely point out that regardless of whether you are on the side of the Iranian government or the protesters, you are still able to stand together with the Iranian people in their fight.

Yeah you did.

, or the fight of the noble Iranian people against the shameless Western agents who under the false pretext of voter fraud try to gain control of Iran.

Don't worry I'm not mad.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Yeah you did.

I also mentioned the noble Iranian people honestly fighting against the shameless voter fraud committed by their government as one of the two opposing viewpoints.

 

[GoodGame]

I just don't see evidence that the West is fomenting unrest in Iran, so I don't appreciate the the insinuation (Don't worry, I'm not mad at that though).

Iran's problems show Iran has problems that it's leadership can't understand/accept, so it blames it on the West for having things like Baywatch, Twinkies, and email. Typical psychological projection / psyop (on the part of Iran's leadership).

 

[Lone Wolf]

I don't appreciate the the insinuation (Don't worry, I'm not mad at that though).

I insinuate nothing. I merely point out that Bast's OP is ambiguous.

 

[dark_sheep]

Since Bast didn't elaborate on the exact details of the fight, I think we are allowed to take our pick. So, it's either the fight of the noble Iranian people against the shameless voter fraud done by the oppressive regime, or the fight of the noble Iranian people against the shameless Western agents who under the false pretext of voter fraud try to gain control of Iran.

Thank you for being a voice of reason.

 

[dark_sheep]

I just don't see evidence that the West is fomenting unrest in Iran, so I don't appreciate the the insinuation (Don't worry, I'm not mad at that though).

Iran's problems show Iran has problems that it's leadership can't understand/accept, so it blames it on the West for having things like Baywatch, Twinkies, and email. Typical psychological projection / psyop (on the part of Iran's leadership).

Aren't you and I under that same spell, from the 'perspective' which the Western media projects upon us? You probably won't think it's possible, so the argument is moot anyway.

Really, Wolf was just pointing out that since the original post was vague, there might be more than one side to this issue. Just because the Western media show Amadinejad (sorry for spelling) in a negative light doesn't mean he's any worse than the tyrants in control of, say, the United States. Do you recall the fraud of the US presidential elections in 2000? Of course not, because it has been suppressed by the media.

It's all about media propaganda. The people of Iran are subject to propaganda and mind control as much as you or I.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Jeez, why does everyone fixate on the second alternative presented in my post? I was merely pointing out the most probably unintended ambiguity in the OP, I wasn't making any far-fetched conclusions.

 

[biggamer132]

Back on topic: The guy who wrote the Shahnameh is apparently a Mousavi supporter.