Lets stop dropping land mines (or any bombs at all)

cluster bombs as landmines? Thats a crock of ****.
Bomb the **** out of them and send in to troops
 
I agree with Whiskey Priest, no one said it was going to be nice.

War is hell.

Graeme, why dont you stop wasting your time here, and write to your politicians if you feel so strongly about it. Seems kind of foolish to just spew out all this crap where it does no good. Go pick up a sign and march in front of the PMs house or something.

I would again point out, Graeme, that you have NEVER shown any concern or consideration for the innocent people of the United States and other countries that were killed by the thousands like cattle in buildings and on airplanes, two months ago.

I, for one, am really sick of your childish whinning and carrying on. I have tried to be patient with you, but it is an exercise in futility. Please shut up until you have something worthwhile to say about the subject.

AoA seems to have put it in perspective, I cant add anything to that.

And I have to go to work now, for free, because all the money tonight goes to the Windows of Hope fund. It is for all the restaurant employees at the WTC whose families couldnt afford to bury their dead realatives, and have no life insurance policies.

I am honored to donate my time.

Later guys,
~George
 
Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae (slightly edited)
(..)About this?
Hardly.
It's like the ramblings of a high strung teenager.
What I don't care for (and will not permit, btw) is things such as "x sucks", "IT's x's fault this happened" and other such drival.
Interesting discourse of ideas is welcome, but this was just silly. :crazyeyes

Put anything else on than america on the place of X,
and he's gonna permit it. The message just wroted was to
ensure that AofA would at last stop his SunTzu -mood.


An as the Afghanistan-bombings...
Americans, what are you thinking to accomplish with bombing of innocent civilians.
It sure looks like Bush is just trying to get some popularity with this.
I cannot make up any other reasonable reason. (nice wordmonster, eh?)

And don't say that ur gonna stop the fundamentalism fanaticsm/dictatorship in Afganistan, because:

Fanaticsm : Because of these bombings, ALL people there will become fanatics, and they're pretty
easy to manipulate for killing innocent people.
Dictatorship : Ok, suggest Taliban is crushed. So? The Northern Alliance will become the ruler of Afgans.
Anybody who knows even a bit about this Northern Alliance knows what it means.
And don't even say that ur not supporting Northern Alliance - Because that sure doesn't seem like it.

Right. This message is probably full of MissTakes in engrish, but hope u get my point.
 
Originally posted by Juize

Put anything else on than america on the place of X,
and he's gonna permit it. The message just wroted was to
ensure that AofA would at last stop his SunTzu -mood.
Nonsense, Juize.
I wouldn't permit that for other nations either, but I don't have to say it.
You don't see americans making hateful statements and outlandish lies about others, as you seem to enjoy doing, so it isn't needed.
An as the Afghanistan-bombings...
Americans, what are you thinking to accomplish with bombing of innocent civilians.
Again with this lie.
No "civilians" are being bombed.
Read your own papers, don't take my word for it. :rolleyes:
It sure looks like Bush is just trying to get some popularity with this.
Yes, he was sitting around the whitehouse, and said, "Hey! Let's get terrorists to kill 5,000 people so I can bomb Afghanistan to gain popularity!" :rolleyes:
I surprised your still this silly after being wrong about everything else the last 2 months, or need we dig up your "NO IT'S NOT BIN LADEN" posts? :rolleyes:
I cannot make up any other reasonable reason. (nice wordmonster, eh?)
You can't think up a reason, period.
But that never stopped you from posting, now did it?

And don't say that ur gonna stop the fundamentalism fanaticsm/dictatorship in Afganistan, because:

Fanaticsm : Because of these bombings, ALL people there will become fanatics, and they're pretty
easy to manipulate for killing innocent people.
Be tough for them to kill anyone when they are dead.
Dictatorship : Ok, suggest Taliban is crushed. So? The Northern Alliance will become the ruler of Afgans.
Both the US and Britain are discussing alternatives.
Anybody who knows even a bit about this Northern Alliance knows what it means.
Yes, an ethnic minority opressed by the ruling Taliban, who are in turn puppets of elements of the Pakisatni Gov and Bin Laden's El Queda.
And don't even say that ur not supporting Northern Alliance - Because that sure doesn't seem like it.
Of course we are, have't you been following the news?

Right. This message is probably full of MissTakes in engrish, but hope u get my point.
Your point came through.
You know nothing about the situation, and want us to believe you do.
You were quite clear, I thought. :rolleyes:
 
Cluster bombs are not land mines. They are bombs made up of hundreds (maybe thousands) of "Bomblets". Now not all of these "bomblets" detinate when intended. So a few out of a thousand have faulty fuses (or whatever the term is) that delay the explosion.
 
Put anything else on than america on the place of X,
and he's gonna permit it. The message just wroted was to
ensure that AofA would at last stop his SunTzu -mood.

What in the hell are your talking about JUIZE!?
 
Hundreds of young muslim men in the UK are heading out to Afghanistan to fight for the Taliban...on the radio 4 today programme they did a piece about it interviewing one such person.

Having gone to school in Bradford (twinned with Karachi :D ) the young man seemed very like many of the people there...ignorant, bored and enjoying being part of a gang.
These people I believe are traitors fighting against their nation and have done a large amount to make me have great misgivings about Islam.

As for bombing Afghanistan...without us starvation would kill huge numbers whilst our accidental misses (otherwise known as the USA having ****e pilots) cause a tiny number of deaths.

In the long run Afghanistan and Afghanis will benefit as money flows in to rebuilt AND because Afghans may go to nicer places to live (like heaven or whatever they have)
 
Didn't moron578 say that he had loadsa young muslims as keen on death as americans were on life...lets give them what they want...

As for the civilians...they are part of it...in w2 the german and british civilians were the ones that supported the war, made the weapons, provided the food etc, civilans providethe shelter, the intelligence on the ground...they are caught up in it.
 
"Why not destroy the taliban, they are an anti-democratic terrorist supporting government? - the British government has a plan for putting in a new government in their place and im sure the US does too."

I think that's what the present war is all about - to destroy the vermin that is the Taliban. And Osama. However to destroy them is probably next to impossible militarily. It's going to have to be a ground war and a war for the hearts and minds of Muslims not just in Afghanistan, but all over the Muslim world.
We shld start with Saudi Arabia and make them stop their religious schools spewing out anti-Western rhetoric. Haven't you noticed most of the terrorists are Saudis? So is Osama. The Saudi religious schools are bringing up whole generations of youngsters with a burning hatred of the West.
And I am sure the British and American govts have plans. The smart thing in this case is not to announce to the whole wide world what plans they have but to work behind the scenes to set those plans into action. Telling the media is also telling the Taliban; and that would be the dumb thing to do - informing the enemy what we're doing so that they can take measures.
I have just found a NY Times commentary on the things that go on behind the scenes in Saudi Arabia : -

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/30/opinion/30FRIE.html

Not only do we have to put an end to Osama, his terrorists and the Taliban who shelters him, we also must put an end to the wrong kind of teachings being perpetuated in Islamic schools and mosques. Otherwise there will always perpetually be a line of young Muslims brainwashed into hating non-Muslims.
 
If I had been in Afghaninstan, I would already have been murdered by the Taliban, and not making any further arguements about anything.
 
Originally posted by Mikoyan
SunTzu, rmsharpe, AofA, Lefty, .:KNAS:. :
I don't think you would make such arguments if YOU actually lived in Afghanistan
I don't think YOU would make such a comment in you lived in NY, Washington DC, any city in Israel, Dar Es Salaam, or any other city that the Bin Laden boys attacked. :rolleyes:
 
Joespaniel, AofA: But people aren't being bombed in New York as we speak, do they? And to and to argument like some people here but in a different manner: 6,500 people died in New York, and that was a big shame, 800,000 people died in Iraq, and there were no aid concerts for the families there. And the bombing will only result in many more civilian deaths than taliban or terrorist ones, unless of course you are one of those people who think all moslems are terrorists. And the U.S government only waste tax payers money with their 'crusade', smart bombs are expensive you know, so thats an extra number on your tax bills. I don't see any reason whatsoever to support this bullying.
 
Originally posted by Mikoyan
Joespaniel, AofA: But people aren't being bombed in New York as we speak, do they?
Hopefully, never again
And to and to argument like some people here but in a different manner: 6,500 people died in New York, and that was a big shame, 800,000 people died in Iraq, and there were no aid concerts for the families there.
How many killed by allies?
A few thousand at most, the bulk merdered by their own leader, Saddam.
And the bombing will only result in many more civilian deaths than taliban or terrorist ones, unless of course you are one of those people who think all moslems are terrorists.
Why do you keep repeating this lie?
There is not one CONFIRMED civilian death so far.
Allied planes ARE NOT hitting civilain targets, but military ones.
Can you not understand the difference?
And the U.S government only waste tax payers money with their 'crusade', smart bombs are expensive you know, so thats an extra number on your tax bills.
Money well spent, to eliminate these murderers.
as for the "Crusade" part, that is yet another foolish Taliban attempt to turn the war on terror into a war on Muslims.
I don't see any reason whatsoever to support this bullying.
Bullying.
What a striking mis-use of a word.
There is not one person I ever met that knew or cared about the Taliban, Bin Laden, or Afghanistan before September 11.
The Taliban and El Queda brought this down on themselves, and THEY are to be blammed.

Now the US will do what it always tries to in war, destroy it's enemeis, while rebuilding it's peoples.
We don't always succeed (Vietnam, for example) but places like Germany, Japan, and South Korea are perfect examples of what we want in this world, happy and productive people who live in peace.

I wish you would start to understand, instead of endlessly repeating Taliban propaganda.
 
i don't see why they should be bombing if they can't ****en aim at the right target. I heard that they bombed a ****en Red Cross building. How the hell do you do that???! what the **** are the smoking... really? plus they are killing innocent civilians. I don't know what they should do, but they should start getting the targets right.
 
Originally posted by jc011
i don't see why they should be bombing if they can't ****en aim at the right target. I heard that they bombed a ****en Red Cross building. How the hell do you do that???! what the **** are the smoking... really? plus they are killing innocent civilians. I don't know what they should do, but they should start getting the targets right.

The current air to ground accuracy of the USA armed forces exceeds that (mostly by far) of any other force, current, or in the History of the world. This is the best anyone has done with bombing accuracy, ever.
 
OK, now. This is not probably interesting to anyone except that who said these, but:

"Yes, he was sitting around the whitehouse, and said, "Hey! Let's get terrorists to kill 5,000 people so I can bomb Afghanistan to gain popularity!"

1 - I didn't said so. Bush has actually no chance to sustain his popularity after this -
except by buttlicking reveangous peopleIt's not nice to use such language. Use it again and you are gone. AoA
2 - Even if I WOULD say so, I still wouldn't doubt a lot.

"I surprised your still this silly after being wrong about everything else the last 2 months, or need we dig up your "NO IT'S NOT BIN LADEN" posts?"

I would certainly think that, yes. You should most definetly look those posts and YOUR answers to those.Are you REALLY this silly, or do you work at it? :rolleyes:

And then:
"No "civilians" are being bombed."
Of course. There are no civilians also dead.
We can also say that no civilians died in WTC, right?No we can't, and your treading on thin ice again, I said NO trolls. Don't push juize, YOU will lose. AoA

"You know nothing about the situation, and want us to believe you do."
My knowledge of situation is very limited. That's exactly why I don't talk what I don't know.
And because there are no civilians dead,
then theres somebody else than me who is wrong.
Not at CFC, no. Your the most incorrect poster yet seen, and it's highly unlikely that you will be exceeded by anyone in the forseeable future.

IN THIS POST THE ENGLISH WAS ALSO HORRIFYING, BUT HOPE YOU GET MY POINT
I'm also glad that AofA isn't still in his SunTzu -mood
(Hmm sorry that was not right - well I'm still keeping it. Sorry to S-Tzu.You owe apologies to a LOT of people here, not just Sun, but it's a start. AoA
 
Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae
Now the US will do what it always tries to in war, destroy it's enemeis, while rebuilding it's peoples.
We don't always succeed (Vietnam, for example) but places like Germany, Japan, and South Korea are perfect examples of what we want in this world, happy and productive people who live in peace.

I wish you would start to understand, instead of endlessly repeating Taliban propaganda.

Sorry for my english, but i have to say that:

Im NOT an stupid anti american guy, but you must think a little bit rational and not in the style "Oh my god, God bless America...."

You believe that what you said, really?? Germany: the reason for your efforts in my country was the cold war, germany was a very nice wall against the evil communism. And than there was an economical interest. And, located in germany, there is a large radarstation, official because the cold war and so on, but that ****ing station is also very nice for spying out europe companies.

South Korea: wall against communism

Japan: China (communism) is knocking on the door, you see?

Kuwait: the one and only reason was: OIL

Israel: Your economy is controlled by jews, they are damn good business men, but thats the reason for your commitment there.

and so on, there are always own interests....and in afghanistan....the US commitment there is so embarassing and stupid, no political concept, but bombs and bred, lol..god bless afghanistan....god bless the world

AND: dont watch CNN, thats the greatest propagandistic programm after the wochenschau, really
 
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