LK48 - Revenge of Xerxes, Persia Emperor AW.

[LKendter]

I am going to give this ONE more try.
If it is another blowout, then I am giving up on Emperor AW.
I have no desire to repeat forever and keep losing like the defiant Nationalist theme is doing.

World Size = Standard
Continents, 40% water, warm, and 5 billion years.
Difficulty = Emperor
Barbarians = Sedentary.
# Civs = 7
NOT culturally linked, NO restarting players.

You must have several deity military victories under your belt and previous AW expeirence.

Remember 10 turns per round - STRICT 24 hours got it, total 48 to complete.
We are playing with the 1.21 patch


The following tactics are PROHIBITED:

However, how many apply to AW?

RoP Rape - if you have to ask...
RoP Abuse (irrigating all tiles with a city building wonders, denying resources with a RoP, etc.)
Scout resource denial - parking a scout on a resource, as the AI won't ask scouts to leave
False Peace Treaties (must wait for the 20 years to end)
Declaring War to break trade deals including actions like the Demand exploit to force a war, or demanding to leave territory.
False Alliances (ally with several people vs. a civ then peace with that civ), and other actions that completely abuse the AI limited diplomacy ability.
Spy exploit - If you fail to plant a spy, you CAN'T try again. The exploit is: you can infinitely plant a spy until the Civ declares war.
Demand exploit - You may make ONE demand a turn per civ. The exploit is: you can demand to the end of time, and guaranteed to get a civ furious and almost to war.
The negative science exploit - you can run a huge deficit (-250 / turn) of negative cash with a token penalty of one lost worker / cheap building. If cash will go below zero, the research level must be dropped.

 

[T-hawk]

I'm in, of course; will try to get along better with the group than in the early stages of the last game.

You sure you want standard map / 40% land? That's quite a lot of productive territory to fight against. I'd think less land would work to our favor, since we'll be attacking for land rather than settler-grabbing it. A smaller map with fewer civs would also give us less opposition to fight against and may be necessary for AW to work on Emperor.

 

[Sirp]

Hmm...if you guys wanted to, and Cartouche Bee didn't mind, which I'm sure he wouldn't, you could play the same game as CB's AWE trainer. Could be fun to have some comparison.

Of course, it wouldn't be 'Revenge of Xerxes' anymore, but could allow some interesting comparisons...us vs you vs CB's solo attempt at it.

-Sirp.

 

[LKendter]

Originally posted by T-hawk
You sure you want standard map / 40% land? That's quite a lot of productive territory to fight against.

The more land the further apart the AI civs. The biggest problem with emperor AW are those starting free units.

Consider the open log before I got a valid game:

I didn't keep detail notes after several tries for reasonable start. I already was conquered; watched city#2 be razed, or multiple units next to city with one defender.


The fundamental problem is the free units. Start next to Germany with a stack of spears and archers = :suicide:

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Signed up:
LKendter
T-Hawk

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I did finally get a reasonable start and made it to 2150BC. We look in good shape, and if we get 5 are ready for your turn.

 

[T-hawk]

Small map / 5 civs / 40% puts civs just about as far apart as standard map / 7 civs / 40%, and gives us that much less productive enemy territory to fight against. Well, we'll make the try again on standard.

 

[Cartouche Bee]

As much as I'd like to redeem the Persians, I just started a AW on larger map with 12 opponents and trying my first PBEM so I'll have to pass. Good Luck!

 

[LKendter]

Well this isn't looking good so far. I suspect most of the potential players are in the Greek AW game. I would start with even 4 players, but we still have just 2.


The start looks great despite contact. It looks like I may play this one as a solo game.

 

[meldor]

I will join the game if you wait until after the end of LK39. Having LK39, LK44 and RBP7 going all at once as intense games took up tto much time and resulted in a back log. If LK39 finishes up soon or RBP7 lightens up, then toss my name in the hat.

 

[LKendter]

LK39 is close to ending. With Annares blowout of China your next round may be your last. The capture of Australia, along with China temples, should win that one. Of course another WM game will hopefully start, but we know the first few rounds tend to be quiet.

I doubt RBP7 will lighten up except if the losing dog pile turn arrives shortly.

Will check back with you after the next LK39 round.

 

[meldor]

Hey, we have RBP7 won, no sweat!

 

[Skyfish]

meldor...the eternal optimist
lee...the eternal realist

 

[LKendter]

Going once...

 

[Nad]

Lee, I read and very much enjoyed your first attempt at this game, and I'm also disappointed that there does not seem to be as much interest second time around. I think part of the reason is the level of proficiency you ask for. Always War is my favourite variant and I would definitely ask to sign up for this game but I cannot claim to have multiple deity military victories under my belt, and I would guess there are many others in the same position. I think there are only about 10-15 people who visit these boards that would qualify to your requirements and if they can't make it, the roster is stalling. If you do not get enough people, I hope you come back to this game at a later date cos I would very much like to see you win this one. :rocket:

 

[Skyfish]

Well Nad I have read your SGs and I believe you definitely have the level to compete in this game : Lee you should take him on !

 

[Nad]

wow, Skyfish, thanks for the praise, and I hope you enjoyed the games, I have also enjoyed reading a lot of your games (feeling embarrassed now )

 

[LKendter]

I agree the requiresment to play in this game is hard to find.

However, consider the last game had heavy warmonger meldor, t-hawk who as been playing deity much longer then I have, and Carthouche Bee who is clearly above my playing ability. What was the result?

This is a diety + game, and that is why I am pushing such strict criteria.

 

[meldor]

Have you thought about running it as a mini-QSC style, if their aren't enough to play? It might be interesting. I would ask that you at least post the file, so others that want to try it can do so.

 

[LKendter]

Going twice...

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I am considering Meldor's idea - in that case there would be NO entry requirements.

 

[hotrod0823]

If you go that route I may pick it up and try a few rounds. I don't have any diety military wins and only 1 space victory in a Diety SG.

 

[Bam-Bam]

Lee--meldor's idea could be interesting.

After having my butt handed to me in Epic 27 (AWM), this would be a good training exercise in AW, since I almost had the game. Poor settling was my achilles heel.