Loco communication thread

Sent this also.

Dear Loco,

We've offered pigs for corn this turn. Sorry for the short notice, hopefully we can chat soon and work out some plans.

Your contrite friends,
Innovia
 
Loco's reply to the chat request. Didn't say who was going to be doing the chatting though.

Hi

A chat would be good for us, I am free at the following times
13/6/07: 9:30-1130GMT
14/6/07:1130-1230
15/6/07: 1030-1230
I am not free over the weekend
 
Nor their emailadress (:rolleyes: amateurs)
 
We already missed the 13th but can you or Theo make it Thu or Fri? That's like midnight-2 AM for me.
 
Say how I can join the Chat.
 
log in to msn, and I'll add you
 
Ok thanks, once again I had been logged out without knowing.
 
Bezig met SE's zegt:
hi
Bezig met SE's zegt:
dutchfire of Team Innovia speaking
Joe zegt:
hi
Bezig met SE's zegt:
how are you doing?
Joe zegt:
alright i think 1889 will be joining us
Bezig met SE's zegt:
I believe he was having some issues with his msn, but if he comes online, I'll add him
Joe zegt:
ok
Bezig met SE's zegt:
I believe you have accepted our resource trade?
Joe zegt:
Yes i think jeejeep accepted it
Joe zegt:
So what do we want to talk about?
Bezig met SE's zegt:
international politics? it looks like epsilon is running away with the game now while piffle and Aloha are fighting it out
Joe zegt:
Ok yes i agree epsilon is running away with the game
Bezig met SE's zegt:
what are we going to do about it?
Bezig met SE's zegt:
we could try to work out some sort of deal between our civs, as alone we won't be able to stand against Epsilon and the other teams
Joe zegt:
ok, how about a tech deal, we will research one set of techs you research the others and we trade them
Bezig met SE's zegt:
that would be great
Bezig met SE's zegt:
which techs are you thinking about?
Joe zegt:
Could we disscuss that later i was in a rush this morning and haven't got the relevant info on our tech progress, from what i know we can research replacable parts,chemistry after two turns
Bezig met SE's zegt:
sure
Joe zegt:
But i think both of us are last in the tech race so this will benefit both of us
Bezig met SE's zegt:
perhaps printing press for astronomy? (i'll look at the beaker costs now)
Joe zegt:
ok loading the game as we speak
Bezig met SE's zegt:
Astronomy is 2000, Printing Press 1600 according to CFC

1889 is aan het gesprek toegevoegd.

Bezig met SE's zegt:
hi
Joe zegt:
hi
Joe zegt:
i am also talking to dutchfire
1889 zegt:
Whew, still got time for this Joe?
Joe zegt:
Yeah i got longer than i had thought
Bezig met SE's zegt:
we were talking about possible tech trades
Joe zegt:
yes
Bezig met SE's zegt:
could you load the game 1889? To check which techs we all have etc.?
Joe zegt:
can you check what techs you have that we don't and vice versa
1889 zegt:
We have optics, astro, military tradition and are starting printing press
1889 zegt:
Loco has gunpowder
Bezig met SE's zegt:
only powder? not Printing Press?
Joe zegt:
do we have nationalism? sorry i can't access the game
Joe zegt:
We should have printing press a
1889 zegt:
we both have nationalism
Joe zegt:
We were reseacrhing replacable parts at one point i swear so we must have printing press
1889 zegt:
Well cool then we can work something out later. can we move on?
Joe zegt:
yeah fine
1889 zegt:
We would like to work out some way to cooperate toward a victory
1889 zegt:
othre wize piffle and epsilon have us both beat
Joe zegt:
Ok,
1889 zegt:
unfortunaltly there is no real way to sdo so
Joe zegt:
are you preparing to invade epsilon at some point?
1889 zegt:
unless we work together but decide wihich of us will win
1889 zegt:
such as un or tech partnering for space race
1889 zegt:
Invade Epsilon - No
Joe zegt:
We are happy to have a tech partnerships
1889 zegt:
Well thats great but no interest in UN then?
Joe zegt:
The problem with the UN is it might bring up unpredictable results, also the other teams will proberly abstrain
Joe zegt:
Although it might be worth going for it to control its usage
Bezig met SE's zegt:
I doubt UN will work actually
Bezig met SE's zegt:
we'd need 3 or 4 teams voting together
1889 zegt:
so its space race then, we can't conquer or dominate
Joe zegt:
space race is best for us
Bezig met SE's zegt:
we'd need to stop epsilon from achieving it though
1889 zegt:
how about letting missionaries into eachother cities?
Joe zegt:
we don't have the miltary to win wars
Joe zegt:
We don't have open borders, well we do but we are not allowed to send units though their land
1889 zegt:
we can spread our religions to eachother, a few more gold won't hurt
Joe zegt:
How about a spying campaign, taking out key resources to slow them down, risky though
Bezig met SE's zegt:
and spies come quite late
Bezig met SE's zegt:
but together we could have 6 spies in their territory, allowing for a lot of sabotage
1889 zegt:
sabotage costs money too right?
Joe zegt:
Excalty although i would expect they would know who had done it if the spies got caught
Joe zegt:
sabotage of improvment dosen't does it
1889 zegt:
i'll look it up in a minute. gotta feed the baby.
1889 zegt:
ya kinda expensive too, like 200 gold to blow up a plantation
Joe zegt:
really that much!!!!
Bezig met SE's zegt:
200? are you sure about that?
Bezig met SE's zegt:
at what settings was that (game speed)
Joe zegt:
I have to go in 15 minutes so if we run out of time we could arrange another time.
1889 zegt:
price probably varies but thats what it asked me for that game
Joe zegt:
ok so how else can we slow epsilon down
Bezig met SE's zegt:
not trading with them?
Joe zegt:
might help!
1889 zegt:
now i gotta change her diaper, i'll email you about those techs but do you want a couple galleys anyway?
Joe zegt:
yes please how much?
1889 zegt:
dutch can name the price or we can work it out later
Joe zegt:
ok
1889 zegt:
good chatting joe, lets stay in touch
1889 zegt:
thanks for the help dutch
Joe zegt:
ok nice talking to you!
1889 zegt:
soo long all
Joe zegt:
bye
Bezig met SE's zegt:
bye
Joe zegt:
How much do you want for the galleys?
Bezig met SE's zegt:
I don't know actually, they're 50 hammers, so probably less than that in gold
Joe zegt:
ok how about 20/30 each?
Bezig met SE's zegt:
(wait, what speed are we playing this at? Normal or Epic?)
Bezig met SE's zegt:
sounds reasonable
Joe zegt:
shall we say 25 each, i don't know how much gold we have so i we consult jeejeep on when we can buy them, might be a while.
Bezig met SE's zegt:
and I'll consult 1889 on when we can deliver them, I don't know where they are now
Bezig met SE's zegt:
how many would you want?

1889 heeft het gesprek verlaten.

Joe zegt:
we start with one and see how many we need, we might have to pay per turn.
Bezig met SE's zegt:
okay
Bezig met SE's zegt:
anything else we need to discuss?
Joe zegt:
no and i need to go
Bezig met SE's zegt:
okay
Joe zegt:
see u later
Bezig met SE's zegt:
well bye then , I hope to talk to you later again
Joe zegt:
ok bye

Chat, now back to learning for my Computer Science exam :sad:
 
Sorry I couldn't be there for the chat because messenger simply refuses to log on now, but you guys handled it well. :)

Maybe we should try to involve Aloha as well to try to make a three team alliance instead of us trying to work out two different alliances?
 
I would like to trade printing (2280) and gun (1710) from Loco for astro (2860) and optics (858) which is only about 270 points in our favor. We can balance with two free galleys and carry the difference over to our next trdae deal. We should also let them know that we have started Edu.

What do you say?
 
Sounds like a very good deal. I'd say the galleys would be worth about 70 research so we can give them the galleys and say we owe them 200 research. I have a hard time seeing how they would decline that offer except for the case that they're about to trade for the same techs from someone else, which should be unlikely.
 
Could you send them a message with this offer Theo?
 
Yes .

Edit: message sent:
Dear Loco,

We would like to suggest a tech trade for our mutual benefit: We'll give astronomy (2860 beakers) and optics (858 beakers) in exchange for printing press (2280 beakers) and gunpowder (1710 beakers). Granted, this is 270 beakers in our favour, so maybe we could gift you the two galleys we spoke of earlier in exchange for 70 beakers (remember that beakers is worth less than gold so this would equal about 40-50 gold)? This way we will be owing you 200 beakers that we'll give back in a later tech trade.

What say you? This trade would surely help both of us.

Theoden,
Foreign Minister of Innovia
 
What say you?

This might just be me, but isn't it "What do you say" in proper English?
Anyway, the message looks good.
 
Not sure, I think you are correct that in modern-day English it would be considered incorrect. It's probably more old-english as I borrowed the phrase from Aragron in LotR where he makes his proposal to king of the dead, but it just sounded so epic I had to include it. :p
 
Just caught Joe online, they're probably going to accept the deal.
 
Looks like they just got Optics on their own so now we have Astro (2860) and Military tradition (2860), they have Gunpowder (1716) and P Press (2288).
 
Sent to Loco:

Hello Locopataimia,

We have offered Astronomy for Printing Press, a deal 600 beakers in your favor. While we hope for the opportunity to balance the scales in future trades, in the mean time we would like to make up part of the difference in resources. 80 turns of resource trades would entirely cover it, and we can already make use of your spare deer.

We look forward to hearing from you on other ways in which we can help each other such as coordinating research efforts and the pending galley sale.

So long,
Team Innovia
 
I think we should send a note thanking Loco for accepting our tech and resource deal and to make sure they all know that we gave them a free galley.

I'd also like to try setting up a future tech trade. We get edu in 7 but what are they working on.
 
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