Luxuries

[Clueless]

Why does it seem that every civilization values their luxuries more than mine? I think in all the time I've been playing, I've only once been offered a straight luxury-for-luxury trade by another civilization. I've never been offered anything better for a luxury, and often civs will ask something from me that seems totally outrageous for one of their luxuries (a luxury plus a science, or a luxury plus a large amount of gold per turn). What gives here?

 

[punkbass2000]

The AI bases its price for lux on how many happy faces it's going to create for each civ. If you have a lot of marketplaces and cities, it's going to help you a lot more than them. If you ever play a One City Challenge, and have an extra lux to trade you will see this quite clearly. You can even get two or three for one, if your opponents are quite large.

 

[Tubby Rower]

AFAIK, There is a calculation based off of how many happy people the additional luxury will create. That's the only thing that I know of. Although I'm not one of the people that do the research, I've read a lot of their articles. This is one of the factors.

Things that affect the amount of happy people that it creates:

1. # of cities
2. Population in those cities
3. Marketplaces
4. Number of other luxuries in marketplace cities
5. other stuff that I don't know

Hope this helps a little.

[Edit] PunkBass beat me to it.

 

[wilbill]

Luxuries are valued in terms of how many "Smiley Faces" they'll create among your population. If you have a larger population than the AI, with more lux and marketplaces, the value of their luxury will be very high. If you're smaller than the AI, their luxury will be valued relatively low.

 

[Clueless]

Wow. Quick replies. Thanks a lot. Maybe if I wasn't one who gives up when my civs seem to be in a bad position, I'd have seen some more favorable offers.

 

[Tubby Rower]

FYI:

If you've violated a Per Turn trade in the past the AI won't ever trade you for luxuries since they are for 20 turns. That includes if it wasn't your fault for the breaking the trade.

 

[citizen001]

That includes if it wasn't your fault for the breaking the trade.

that's a bit UNFAIR!!!!!!! think Firaxis should change this.

 

[punkbass2000]

It can't be changed without giving massive human exploits.