Making own maps. Terra map with three continents, and huge 'huge' maps.

snoochems

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Hi all.

I’ve been playing around with Civ 4.

I would like to play on a map that is like the Terra map. As in, very large with a continent that no one starts on.

But, I would like to have a total of three continents, with two having civ’s starting on them.

Is this possible. I’ve tried the ‘World Builder’ but OMG!!! It’s just soooo slow and tedious.

For one, it just runs really slow. My PC specs are right up there, so it’s not my PC. What am i doing wrong? Or is the world builder just that bad.

Also, placing rivers… is there some kind of magical wand I need to get them to go where I want or something?

On top of this, is there a way to make the HUGE maps larger? I want to play with 18 civiliazations, but i want it to be spread out like it is with the normal 12 civilizations. Can this be done?

Thanks.
 
My worldbuilder also runs painfuly slowly!

Why did they think this worldbuilder was even worth releasing, CIV3's editor was so much better... words fail me

BlytZ
 
Do you have the problem when you place a terrian tile, then nothing happens for 5 seconds. If you move your mouse in that five seconds, the tile you wanted placed will be placed where you mouse is, as opposed to where you clicked it...

...?
 
snoochems said:
Hi all.

I’ve been playing around with Civ 4.

I would like to play on a map that is like the Terra map. As in, very large with a continent that no one starts on.

But, I would like to have a total of three continents, with two having civ’s starting on them.

Is this possible. I’ve tried the ‘World Builder’ but OMG!!! It’s just soooo slow and tedious.

For one, it just runs really slow. My PC specs are right up there, so it’s not my PC. What am i doing wrong? Or is the world builder just that bad.

Also, placing rivers… is there some kind of magical wand I need to get them to go where I want or something?

On top of this, is there a way to make the HUGE maps larger? I want to play with 18 civiliazations, but i want it to be spread out like it is with the normal 12 civilizations. Can this be done?

Thanks.

Well the world builder is really slow for everyone. It's painfully slow. That's why people have been writing third party software to do it outside the game. The maps are text based anyway, so it's relatively easier to write a GUI based program to do it.

Rivers, you have to place them FACING TOWARDS where you want them to flow. Place one at one tile, then if you want it to flow east, place the second one to the right side. If you want it to curve north, place one to the upper right corner of that tile.

Let me explain: below are tiles of 5x5 land, and on top the ~ denote the sea.

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[] [] [] [] []
[] [] [] [] []
[] [] [] [] []
[] [] [] [] []
[] [] [] [] []

Let's say, you want the river to flow like this:

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[] [] []|[] []
[] [] []|[] []
[] [] []|[] []
[] [] [] [] []
[] [] [] [] []

You have to place the rivers on these tiles:

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[] [] [] [] []
[] [] [] [] []
[] [] [] [] []
[] [] [] [] []
[] [] [] [] []


(Sorry for my stupid sketches but that's the best way to explain :scan: )

On the subject of having three continents, you can always mod the map generator Python file and test it out (NOTE: you SHOULD make a backup of it before testing anything on it. But testing doesn't hurt, and the worst you'd encounter is a gamecrash, but nothing serious).

I hope this helps.
 
Ah... an even bigger huge map.. so you can sit back and watch your computer MELT!

I can't even go ten turns without crashing out to windows on a big map... something beyond huge would be apocalyptic.
 
Well, i made a modification to the Huge map size, making the grid size 40,25.

Played a map, and on the first turn my PC was using over a 1.2GB of RAM!

I've got 1.5GB's, so here's hoping it just doesn't go over.
 
For the love of all things holy... it's just as bad with the patch.
 
Hm, in my opinion very huge maps are not very useful. Because you get very large empire and it is hard to controll. I use large size maps and 18 civs on it. I made special new map generation option "Normal climate" type (less desert, and more land) usually having 5 continents and 18 civs. So it runs quite fast and has more conquest funn.

Of course it depends what you expect from the game...
 
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