Map Sizes
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Bucephalus
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Peregrine
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I'd like to know more about that "giant" map. In what mod is that available?
This gives the standard sizes, but some mapscripts change it :
(I slightly changed the number of players in my mod)
Thank you very much. But to be sure, I must ask you: Are all of the official map sizes (duel-huge, excluding large+ and huge+) unmodified in that picture? Your screenshot says 8 players instead of 7, which is curious.
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A standard map is 80x48 tiles? I never knew that.
eh...
I thought about it after posting it. I did make some modifications to maintain the 1:1.6'ish format and make "nice" numbers.
standard is 84x52 and large is 104x64 in BtS. sorry (I thought 80 and 100 was better)
I changed the players (as I wrote in the post) to fit the 500'ish tiles/player.
The +sizes I made for lazyness (not have to activate, activate, activate etc, when wanting a lot of players on the map) and to modify the buildingsneeded multiplier regarding quests and such.
I always wondered why they didnt write sizes when selecting maps (they did in Test of Times), so I wrote them myself, though some mapscripts will not fit (titled axis, perfect world etc)
I thought about it after posting it. I did make some modifications to maintain the 1:1.6'ish format and make "nice" numbers.
standard is 84x52 and large is 104x64 in BtS. sorry (I thought 80 and 100 was better)
I changed the players (as I wrote in the post) to fit the 500'ish tiles/player.
The +sizes I made for lazyness (not have to activate, activate, activate etc, when wanting a lot of players on the map) and to modify the buildingsneeded multiplier regarding quests and such.
I always wondered why they didnt write sizes when selecting maps (they did in Test of Times), so I wrote them myself, though some mapscripts will not fit (titled axis, perfect world etc)
ruff_hi
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The actual number of tiles in a map size change with each map script. They are not all the same. Look at the code in the map script for the actual numbers (note you must multiple by 4 to get the number of tiles).
Peregrine
The Swift
Vincentz, I looked at your spoiler with some interest. Is it possible to simply change those numbers and generate a larger map? My primary interest is in the Huge category. The numbers you list show 32 and 20. Is it possible to change those numbers to higher ones and generate a much larger map?
Why multiply by 4? Does "84x52" not mean "84 tiles by 52 tiles"?
ruff_hi
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The map sizes (see spoiler above for the values from XML or the individual map script files) are given in grids. A 1x1 grid is 4x4 tiles.
Yes it is. some of the usercreated maps on the forum is BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG
and some mods even goes beyond Giant (which is where I stopped, to avoid MAFs in lategame) to Gigantic.
I dont think there is a hardcoded limit, but I think if you go beyond Gigantic you would have to use NASA's best (single core) supercomputer to make it actual playable
It would certainly make circumvention a feat
Peregrine
The Swift
Vincentz,
Found the file, found the numbers. According to what I saw, the number of players (AI) can also be changed? More can be put into a game? Does this number apply to a custom game? A larger map should probably have more AI players, I'm inclined to think.
More importantly, there are things I don't understand, and before I change anything, it'd be good to know what I'm doing.
1. First, I attempted to open the file w/notepad and simply backspace-and-retype the numbers. Wouldn't let me do that. It would let me double-click on the number, which then highlighted. Seeing this prompted me not to do anything until I knew more about this process. So . . .
2.) I attempted to backup the file, in case my efforts/monkeying with it did something that would be undesirable. Wouldn't let me do that either. Just tried to cut-->copy. Several times, but no go.
3.) Could you tell me why these things are happening and what I need to do to change things safely? Not going to touch a thing until I know more. But sure do want to. . .
Found the file, found the numbers. According to what I saw, the number of players (AI) can also be changed? More can be put into a game? Does this number apply to a custom game? A larger map should probably have more AI players, I'm inclined to think.
More importantly, there are things I don't understand, and before I change anything, it'd be good to know what I'm doing.
1. First, I attempted to open the file w/notepad and simply backspace-and-retype the numbers. Wouldn't let me do that. It would let me double-click on the number, which then highlighted. Seeing this prompted me not to do anything until I knew more about this process. So . . .
2.) I attempted to backup the file, in case my efforts/monkeying with it did something that would be undesirable. Wouldn't let me do that either. Just tried to cut-->copy. Several times, but no go.
3.) Could you tell me why these things are happening and what I need to do to change things safely? Not going to touch a thing until I know more. But sure do want to. . .
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Badbad thingy in vista/win7
Happens when installing in default location (program files)
I disabled it 119 years ago, so I dont remember if it can be overridden with an Administrator permission.
But dont change original files (even with a backup). Instead make a small mod. Its not difficult at all. There are many guides in the forum to teach you how, but basically you just need a folder in the Mods folder of beyond the sword. (the one with Afterworld, Broken Star, Charlemagne and other default mods).
(Default path : C:/Program Files/Firaxis Games/Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Mods)
inside that folder you put the folders and files you need. Take a look at another mod to see how, but in this case you need :
CIV4WorldInfo.xml inside
...Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\[name of your mod]\Assets\XML\GameInfo
and vupti. You have made your first mod. simple as that. you then have to load it from the advanced menu - load a mod in the main menu or you can make a shortcut of BtS and in destination field write mod=\[name of your mod]
example
"C:\Games\Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe" mod=\VIP
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Badbad thingy in vista/win7
Happens when installing in default location (program files)
I disabled it 119 years ago, so I dont remember if it can be overridden with an Administrator permission.
But dont change original files (even with a backup). Instead make a small mod. Its not difficult at all. There are many guides in the forum to teach you how, but basically you just need a folder in the Mods folder of beyond the sword. (the one with Afterworld, Broken Star, Charlemagne and other default mods).
(Default path : C:/Program Files/Firaxis Games/Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Mods)
inside that folder you put the folders and files you need. Take a look at another mod to see how, but in this case you need :
CIV4WorldInfo.xml inside
...Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\[name of your mod]\Assets\XML\GameInfo
and vupti. You have made your first mod. simple as that. you then have to load it from the advanced menu - load a mod in the main menu or you can make a shortcut of BtS and in destination field write mod=\[name of your mod]
example
"C:\Games\Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe" mod=\VIP
