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It depends. As long as you're in Despotism, it depends. Any tile producing 3 or more food, gold or shields gets one skimmed off the top by the "Despotism penalty." Take a look at each of the tiles and see what it's producing. What you want to avoid is investing worker turns for no payback. Example: if you have a grassland (2 food) and irrigate it (+1 food), you get 3 food. Then the despo penalty kicks in (-1 food) and you're back where you started. There are some pdfs in the reference section that you can print out and they'll show you the terrain values.
The Reference section: http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3/reference
The Reference section: http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3/reference
You're correct. Monarchy does not have War Weariness. That'll make it a little easier to deal with. Republic is generally considered the best all-around government, but it is more "fiddly" than Monarchy. It also generates more commerce and more science.
1. I also recommend CxxxC spacing, but settling according to terrain should come first in mind.
2. You *can and should* build wonders in your games when you play peacefully, or will play peacefully for an era. If you plan to "warmonger" or go and beat up the AIs, then building wonders doesn't make as much, if any, sense, with a few exceptions. You can probably safely assume that those who don't build wonders almost never play peacefully and plan to do so even less.
2. You *can and should* build wonders in your games when you play peacefully, or will play peacefully for an era. If you plan to "warmonger" or go and beat up the AIs, then building wonders doesn't make as much, if any, sense, with a few exceptions. You can probably safely assume that those who don't build wonders almost never play peacefully and plan to do so even less.
iv been using CXXXC, more because of terrain than anything but iv filled up the space i have available so im likely to be at war for quite a few years now. My plan is to use monachy untill i have control of my continent then switch to republic as i build to invade the other continents.
This is my current save, am i setting the cities out right? (this one is in conquests)
This is my current save, am i setting the cities out right? (this one is in conquests)
ZzarkLinux
Engineering Programmer
Okay I took a glimpse at the save.
Here are some of my observations
- Your cities have 5 content citizens by default. I guess this ~Warlord difficulty?
- You hooked up your luxuries. Good.
- Your cities are spaced better. I haven't reviewed the exact placement though.
- You have Victory Point locations on. If you wish to learn the game, I recommend off-ing this.
If I may offer my advice / critique, here it is:
I'll look at the save some more later.
! Good luck !
EDIT:
I looked at the save again.
And remember the art of war:
- Concentrate your attack. Spreading it out is generally bad.
- Attack with "overwhelming force". This takes practice. Victory shouldn't depend on any 1 single battle.
Here are some of my observations
- Your cities have 5 content citizens by default. I guess this ~Warlord difficulty?
- You hooked up your luxuries. Good.
- Your cities are spaced better. I haven't reviewed the exact placement though.
- You have Victory Point locations on. If you wish to learn the game, I recommend off-ing this.
If I may offer my advice / critique, here it is:
Spoiler :
I'll look at the save some more later.
! Good luck !
EDIT:
I looked at the save again.
Spoiler :
And remember the art of war:
- Concentrate your attack. Spreading it out is generally bad.
- Attack with "overwhelming force". This takes practice. Victory shouldn't depend on any 1 single battle.
Thanks ZzarkLinux, i dont mind criticism as long is its helpfull like yours was, ill get rid of my spearmen and maybe have 1 swordsman in each border town? im not actually sure what Victory Point locations are lol?
a) the pyramids was an auto thing, i changed it when i realised
b)if you mean the warriors then they were just exploring, i see what you mean by parade line thanks
c)i put wealth on as i didnt have anything to build, there i had all my units coming from london and settlers/workers from york. bad?
e)iv just updated to republic after i wiped out mongols and spain. too early? my next attack is aimed at light pinks, cant remember which they are lol.
iv been fighting by bombared with catapult then sending in medieval infanty and the army iv made. ok? or should i use more cavalry, i think im up to knight?
Thanks for the advice and heres an updated save if anyone needs it.
a) the pyramids was an auto thing, i changed it when i realised
b)if you mean the warriors then they were just exploring, i see what you mean by parade line thanks
c)i put wealth on as i didnt have anything to build, there i had all my units coming from london and settlers/workers from york. bad?
e)iv just updated to republic after i wiped out mongols and spain. too early? my next attack is aimed at light pinks, cant remember which they are lol.
iv been fighting by bombared with catapult then sending in medieval infanty and the army iv made. ok? or should i use more cavalry, i think im up to knight?
Thanks for the advice and heres an updated save if anyone needs it.
ZzarkLinux
Engineering Programmer
Well I can't look at your second save cause I don't got time. But here's some more general stuff based on what you mentioned.
Spoiler :
thanks, im currently half way through a war with the arabs, i have 3 cannon and 15 medieval infantry and have taken about half their cities and im moving settlers forward to fill in gaps. should i make peace as i was just planning to destroy them, then move to russians and blues leaving just me and the inca's(sp?)
ZzarkLinux
Engineering Programmer
The save above is looking great 
I think you're in the steam-roller phase of the game now. So I would recommend this advice for the steamroller phase:
- Pick the best targets. The silks near one border is good. Are there good wonder cities nearby?
- Beeline Cavalry and Railroads. Both are very helpful for large empire warring.
- More Workers (as always). Especially when railroads come around, they gotta work even harder.
- At lower levels, the AI culture is very poor. Don't worry about culture flips, they're easy to avoid / handle, and it saves you from building settlers.
- Didn't check for Heroic Epic or Forbidden palace. Do you have those?
- Once you get the hang of the current difficulty, then try larger maps or the next higher difficulty.
I think you're in the steam-roller phase of the game now. So I would recommend this advice for the steamroller phase:
- Pick the best targets. The silks near one border is good. Are there good wonder cities nearby?
- Beeline Cavalry and Railroads. Both are very helpful for large empire warring.
- More Workers (as always). Especially when railroads come around, they gotta work even harder.
- At lower levels, the AI culture is very poor. Don't worry about culture flips, they're easy to avoid / handle, and it saves you from building settlers.
- Didn't check for Heroic Epic or Forbidden palace. Do you have those?
- Once you get the hang of the current difficulty, then try larger maps or the next higher difficulty.
For whatever shorthand we may use around here for city spacing, most of us (if not all) agree that terrain considerations carry the day in determining where to put cities. I don't think any of us recommend passing up a grassland cow and some silks just to stick to a rigid spacing scheme. However, I think it will be helpful for you to know why people space their cities in different ways.
It's rarely wise to governments more than once. For an All-War game (where you do not allow yourself to make peace), Monarchy is usually the government of choice. For most other games, it's Republic. In C3C, Republic has enough unit support and is durable enough to survive all but really intensive warmongering. I hear that communism is a great late-war government, but I still need to try that one out. In any case, the problem with switching governments a second time is that you get a second anarchy. Presumably, your empire will be larger and you'll draw a longer anarchy period. If you're already in Monarchy, I'd just stay there. The kicker about War Weariness (if I understand correctly) is that even though Monarchy isn't affected by it, it's still being tallied while you're a Monarchy. Switch to Republic and you'll catch all the effects of WW.
Ansar
Détente avec l'été
A mix of CxxxC and CxxC is the best, IMO.
(But lets not get into that)
(But lets not get into that)
ZzarkLinux thanks, im currently just working around all the civs untill its me surrounding the 2nd 2nd biggest and just make like a 2 stack attack or something. currently building hero epic as before i was pumping out troops although my med inf may need improvement, might get replaceable parts and nationalism and get some Guerilla and Infantry but well see.
Aabraxan, iv already swapped to republic as i needed a science and economic boost to pay for my troops, im generally finding CXXXC is the best for me, although i am only in my first organized game lol
thanks guys
Aabraxan, iv already swapped to republic as i needed a science and economic boost to pay for my troops, im generally finding CXXXC is the best for me, although i am only in my first organized game lol
thanks guys
hey, for anyone who helped and is interested how i got on heres a update. My plan is to attack to inca for coal before finishing of the relativly weak hitties to take to continent, before attacking the little island above the roman continent to secure a base there. then finish my game by destroying the romans. o and iv become a commie!
