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Mod to restrict 1 combat unit per tile?
- Thread starter mattpilot
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Was curious if there's a mod out there that makes the upcoming combat/gameplay in Civ5 a reality in Civ4.
Anything of that sorts available or already in works? Preferably compatible with RevolutionDCM
IIRC Affores added this to a new dawn (a modmod of Rise of Mankind) which uses RevDCM.
Myxphyn
Chieftain
That is what I looking for also. Is there a MOD for "normal" BTS also? I couldn't find yet. I like to try this 1 unit per hex and ranged attacking thing
Myxphyn
Chieftain
I checked the "A New Dawn" forum, but I couldn't see anything about 1 unit per tile or ranged attack, maybe I misunderstand something?
LateGameWarMong
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I've thought about adding ranged attack by making "aircraft" with a 100% evasion chance, and range of 1, with a strength equal to the unit it is meant for.
So archers would be like a "land carrier", carrying 1 "archer aircraft" with an attack strength of 3, range of 1, 100% evasion chance.
Only problem is how do you distribute the cost? ideally the range 1 "aircraft" would come with the unit...
But cities could just stockpile the complementary "aircraft", and pwn any unit that gets within 1 tile (I'd keep the 50% damage limit).
Artillery could be given a range of 2, I suppose, and would loose the bombard capability... their complementary aircraft could do the bomb tile thing...
But I fear this would make any non-ranged unit nearly obsolete, as stacks just strike each other from 1-2 tiles away, in forrest/hills, with medic units, and a 25% fortify bonus,
You might have 1 melee only stack defender....
Or do you reduce the ranged units combat strength to 1, and give their former strength to the complementary "aircraft"
After all, once you close in, a warrior with a club, a musketeer, or a rifle man, would all be about as effective in hand to hand combat.
Tanks and mechanized infantry would have a strength greater than 1 though.........
So archers would be like a "land carrier", carrying 1 "archer aircraft" with an attack strength of 3, range of 1, 100% evasion chance.
Only problem is how do you distribute the cost? ideally the range 1 "aircraft" would come with the unit...
But cities could just stockpile the complementary "aircraft", and pwn any unit that gets within 1 tile (I'd keep the 50% damage limit).
Artillery could be given a range of 2, I suppose, and would loose the bombard capability... their complementary aircraft could do the bomb tile thing...
But I fear this would make any non-ranged unit nearly obsolete, as stacks just strike each other from 1-2 tiles away, in forrest/hills, with medic units, and a 25% fortify bonus,
You might have 1 melee only stack defender....
Or do you reduce the ranged units combat strength to 1, and give their former strength to the complementary "aircraft"
After all, once you close in, a warrior with a club, a musketeer, or a rifle man, would all be about as effective in hand to hand combat.
Tanks and mechanized infantry would have a strength greater than 1 though.........
That is what I looking for also. Is there a MOD for "normal" BTS also? I couldn't find yet. I like to try this 1 unit per hex and ranged attacking thing
Well, DCM (Dale's Combat Mod) is for normal game but It has never been updated to BTS. RevDCM uses all things in DCM + many many more. The best things is that you can switch off and on features you want. The one unit per tile is only in A New Dawn, but you have to download RoM (Rise of Mankind uses RevDCM) first and install AND on it.
IIRC, there was an easier way to do that in xml without changing anything big, but I don't remember it anymore...
And that could lead to wars like WWI, just bring there more men to win...
Myxphyn
Chieftain
Thanks!
Should I have to install RevDCM before RoM? or RoM contains it or just use it? Its not so clear for me, sry
Another thing: I want to use the hungarian civilization, as I can see its included in the extra civ pack for RoM 2.0. I wonder is it compatible with A New Dawn?
Well, now I can see that there is no update of AND for RoM 2.9, so first I try RoM 2.9, and when AND 1.7 will be released I will install it
Should I have to install RevDCM before RoM? or RoM contains it or just use it? Its not so clear for me, sry
Another thing: I want to use the hungarian civilization, as I can see its included in the extra civ pack for RoM 2.0. I wonder is it compatible with A New Dawn?
Well, now I can see that there is no update of AND for RoM 2.9, so first I try RoM 2.9, and when AND 1.7 will be released I will install it
Thanks!
Should I have to install RevDCM before RoM? or RoM contains it or just use it? Its not so clear for me, sry
Another thing: I want to use the hungarian civilization, as I can see its included in the extra civ pack for RoM 2.0. I wonder is it compatible with A New Dawn?
Thank you in advance!
No need to install RevDCM, RoM has it already.
I think the best place to ask would be in the A New Dawn subforums. They'll know it best.
phungus420
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1 unit per tile wouldn't work in BtS, the AI will get destroyed as it has no concept of it, and also the combat mechanics are not set up to handle it. I also really doubt Afforess's AND mod adds this, if it does it would be extremely imbalanced for the reasons stated above.
I'm not saying that it would work well, he/she wanted to have that kind of feature. But I do understand your point how it won't work in Civ4, that's what Afforess said too but did add it.
