More SMAniaC faction makeovers

Well, I just did some poking around, and I used the skreeblios bases I mentioned before on the Shadow Ghosts. I do not remember why.

That leaves those nice domed bases available for the Templars, of course, though that would be potentially confusing for veteran SMAniac players.

I'm attaching a set of Pyramid bases that are up for grabs for you consideration, too. I can do these in other colors, also.


Maniac, a thing you might consider, BTW, is that, not withstanding your assertion back on page one, there is a big benefit to change for the sake of change- it can make a years-old mod fresh again for veterans.

Isn't that a lot of the point of mods? They make an old game new? That's an awful lot of what I got from playing SMAniaC, anyway. (I'm not nearly so interested as you in economics...)
 

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Well, I did more poking around, and I was in error last night- I was looking at the wrong file. Here are the Templars with new bases and diplomacy landscape by skreeblios.

skree, Maniac tells me he'd like some initative on new bases. Bases aren't my strongest thing- think you could help?
 

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I turned this picture of a not-entirely-uncute white nerd girl (zoom in- she has pretty eyes) into a painting of an rather-uncute Japanese nerd guy for my new alt. Data Angels, the Node Masters, last night.

It occurs to me that I could turn the same shot into the female Genesis leader with even less work- and not have the twins problem this time. It would be little trouble to turn her shirt into a lab coat and switch that chip in her hand for a petrie dish. Probably, I would put her against a lab-looking background. I wouldn't mind making her Chinese or something, but I'm not married to it; I'm too close to wrapping up another big project to drag my heals much...

Thoughts, Mr. Maniac, sir? Any little graphic needs you'd like to mention?
 

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Hey. All of ya'll migrated back here. This is the graphic set I've been using for Smaniac; a few mods to original factions (I never was a fan of Roze's original portrait, Spartans get a new diplo landscape, darker bases, new colors; new Believer portrait). Most notably are the Gaians - a more 'small base' design, that I think fits well with the Smaniac attributes. Templars have a redux also.

You'll notice my spikey bases are used for Genesis; for the Ghosts I pirated some from the Network Node factions.

Let me know what you like here. I'll post some screenies later. Here's the link to the zip; it was too large to post here:

www.stillgoingnative.com/smac/smaniacskreebliosgraphics.zip
 
Hi skree. I'm going to be away for most of the day. If I have any energy left when I get home after supper, I'll have a look at your Zip and comment- I've saved it.

Maniac has given me conditional aproval of the nerd girl. That's going to the top of my build queue as soon as I have any energy to get back to work. May not be until tomorrow.
 
Let me know what you like here.

I really like the Believers leader - she's striking just the right pose IMO, as if someone has just questioned her beliefs and she's about to go into her diatribe.

Also liked the Empaths - seemed detached from reality/ the moment (which I imagine an Empath would).

Also, just to make sure you're aware and are agreeable, why Buster's Uncle has taken the leaderhead from your Genesis and made it into icons for my Beta Lyrae mod (i.e. they are replacing the pics for the 8th faction such as mindworms, Spore Launchers, and Sealurks).


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Here are a few screenies. There's still way more in the zip, so have a look. I also altered the drone bases a tiny bit, and gave them a new leader (don't remember if I included that in the zip). I'll be sure to include it in the next iteration [as well as adding credits]. The only reason was that I wanted another woman. The Miriam edit was entirely aesthetic.
 

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Had a look at your zip skreeblios. Some comments. Always possible I missed some of the changes:

I don't see the need for changes to the original 14's graphics. So I do not want to include changes to their leader portraits, base graphics or diplomacy landscapes in SMAniaC.

I don't like the Atlantis base graphics currently in SMAniaC. However my first thought is the ones you use don't really fit either. They look very organic, but Atlantis is not a faction focused on biotech. If you guys prefer the new base graphics skreeblios gave to the Ghosts, I'd suggest moving the old Ghost base graphics to Atlantis.

The Genesis base graphics and landscape look cool!

I prefer the current base graphics for the Templar. Don't you guys like those?? :confused:

The modification to the Templar icon looks cool.

Skreeblios, do you still have the original unresized un-scanlined pictures you used for your Angel, Believer and Templar leader? They could come useful for Planetfall. Same is true for the Nerd Buncle is working on.
 
Would you like the raw photo .bmp of nerdgirl I'm working from now, or wait for the painted looking-version w/o her hand that I'm making? The original's not a huge picture in either case- only about twice the size- so I may be able to post it here.

I'm not in love with the Templar bases- like the Atlantis and Empath ones they look too small compaired to the SMAC(X) standard or the rest of the SMAniaC ones. The Templar and Empath bases are not shapes that would make it easy to enlarge them, either. I'll try a quick widening of the Atlantis ones for you though, and post something soon.

Base swaps are very little work, BTW, when I have good bases to swap. Alterations are a bit more trouble. I suppose I ought to post you my version of the Ghosts (that already incorporates so much of skree's good work) with his bases added, then. It's a minor enough thing to be no trouble...
 
skree, I apologize for taking two days to find time to look through your stuff and comment. I certainly also regret having to give graphics that each surely took a lot of time and work so little individual attention- but this is a lot of stuff to react to at once.

Maniac, I think I like skree’s changes to the Templar logos better than the originals.

All the difference I notice for the Spartans is the landscape, and I have some trouble making out what it’s supposed to be…

I like the stadium bases used for the Ghosts, but don’t follow the logic of the (NYC?) landscape choice.

With your Genesis, you already know I like the way-cool floating mecha-thing you used as leader. The bases are neat, but as Maniac says, look a bit grown, and therefore maybe not the best match for a floating brain confined to a metal carapace. I believe I deserve no credit for the bases, but aren’t the logos a recolor of the caretaker ones I did? (One reason to be meticulous about credit is that when you do so many faction graphics, it can become difficult to keep track of what you’ve done- so I’m actually asking.) At any rate, I’d rather not accept credit for your lovely bases.

With your Gaians, the difference I see is the shields. While the Progenitor shields are easier to work with, and IMO a bit nicer-looking, from a game-story standpoint, I don’t know that giving them to a human faction is a good idea. (The Bree are an escaped prog experiment, after all; they might have come by them that way... The story-telling aspect is an important part of the art- I’ve had a lot of great background details arise from my impression of portraits I’ve labored over.

I don’t notice anything new about your Empaths. See my previous remarks about this graphic.

…Same for the Bree. I still like your improvments to the logo.

Again, I like your new Believers leader. When I submitted a pretty redhead for Darsnan’s splinter Believers, the Conclave it took me a few days to talk him into it- though now he names her as one of his favorites. Sometimes good storytelling has nuance, and I think the Miriam portrait is just a bit of an unsubtle piling-on.

I don’t see why an attractive woman with a bad attitude couldn’t be in charge. This fits the bill nicely. The figure is a good size in the frame, and about the right level of realism. Maybe, just maybe, she would be better if you reduced the color level a little and made it a bit darker to match the official factions more closely- but I’m not sure it’s even worth going to the trouble. I may well steal this portrait for something before too long; it’s very nice, pleasant to look at, and a good choice for the faction, in my book.

I think your Atlantis faction is the same except for those interesting bases of yours- I really need to break down and playtest this graphic to see how they look in the game.

Wow. That is a really striking leaderhead you dropped into your Data Angels. I can definitely see her getting stolen in the future. I can’t quite put a finger on what you did to the bases, but I think you did something to the color of the darker parts, and they look good.

I. Love. The diplomacy landscape you came up with here. It’s just dynamite. Very right for the hacker faction. I fancy my alt. Angels leader can whip your alt. Angels leader, but your bases are a bit better-looking and your landscape wins hands-down. Full marks, sir. Shake your own hand for me.

skree, you should post your non-SMAniaC stuff in the [graphics] thread, or better, start your own thread. Your work is worthy of showcasing. The community isn’t bursting with artists, and you’re burying your stuff posting it all here.

I would love it if you’d tell me more about your artistic process in the [graphics] thread, too…
 
Would you like the raw photo .bmp of nerdgirl I'm working from now, or wait for the painted looking-version w/o her hand that I'm making?

I'll wait for the edited version. Thanks! :)

I'm not in love with the Templar bases

They were my favourites of the whole Network Node. :-s They seem a realistic vision of how one might actually construct bases on a hostile world. You know, connected by underground transport lines. I wonder where that diplomacy landscape came from.

I'll try a quick widening of the Atlantis ones for you though, and post something soon.

You mean the old graphics currently in SMAniaC. Not sure if that's useful, since no one(?) likes them.
 
I'll wait for the edited version. Thanks! :)
No sweat.



They were my favourites of the whole Network Node. :-s They seem a realistic vision of how one might actually construct bases on a hostile world. You know, connected by underground transport lines. I wonder where that diplomacy landscape came from.
They look wrong compared to the standard, IMO, but I don't feel that strongly about it. The base swap took minutes, and you still have the last version.

Now we could give skree's bio-bases to the Genesis, and look for something else for Atlantis, and maybe the Empaths...

You mean the old graphics currently in SMAniaC. Not sure if that's useful, since no one(?) likes them.
It wouldn't take long to do a test and post. It woeked for the skinny screw-looking bases of Darsnan's Voracious Faction, if you want to go have a look at that.

I'll do a quicky widening and post a .jpg for your review today.
 
Here are before and after shots. I still don't want to propose marriage to those bases, but the wide versions look even less like coke bottles...

This is definitely closer to the standard sort of base proportions. There are other things I could do, too, if you think this is on the right track but needs more.
 

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With this wrapping up my commitments, for the most part, I'm considering dropping out of the community. I'm tired of wasting my time trying to explain why, so please don't ask.

Maniac, I'll email you the 400x400 .bmp of Dr. Nerdina soon. We can talk there if you want anything else done. It's not the art I've had it with.

skree, you please stay in touch, too...
 

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She looks awesome!! :D
Did you have a new name for her in mind (eg Dr.Nerdina ;)), or do you still think Dr. Chaue is ok?
 
I'm pretty happy with how she turned out- but honestly, the photo I was working with deserves most of the credit. It's a good image.

I glammed her up, but only very slightly; mostly I just reduced her chin, nose & jawline, and poofed up her hair slighly. Also, I changed the shape of her glasses a little.

No, Nerdina is too obvious a joke. I think Chaue is fine. Argentina sounds good and I see no reason to change anything else.
 
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