mounted units retreating

[MangeTonChapeau]

I can't figure out how the retreating or not decision for a mounted unit works. I know that it will not retreat if both attacking and defending units have only one life left, but I thought that in any other situation, when the mounted unit got red, then it would retreat. I have seen situations were the defending unit wasn't red, the attacking mounted unit had space to get back and died without retreating.
So how does it trully works ? Is it some kind of random, or does a kind of terrain control like in previous civs still intervenes ?

 

[Zydiax]

The Civiliopedia says that the unit will retreat if it's losing unless fighting another fast unit. Maybe that's it?

 

[MangeTonChapeau]

Right, I forgot to tell that it didn't concern a defending fast unit (it last happened between a knight and an archer).

 

[Theoden]

If all the requirements for retreat is met, then there is a chance based on the experience levels of the units invovled. If the attackers experience is high then the chance is increased, if the defenders experience is high it is decreased.

 

[vmxa]

It was corrected at some point to have a percentage for retreated based primarily on it experience. IOW a vet is more likely to retreat than a regular.

 

[Jaybe]

It's a probability thing. An elite unit is more likely to retreat than a veteran. See the "Experience Levels" tab in the Editor; I think it is Conscript:34, Regular:50; Veteran:58; Elite:66. Personally, I prefer 34/50/75/100.

However, that is not all there is to it. An elite is less likely to retreat from another elite than from a veteran unit, and is most likely to retreat from a conscript. Therefore, you could modify an Elite's retreat probability to 100% and it still wouldn't retreat at every opportunity, due to the opponent's experience. This has been tested, thought I don't remember what percentages were found.

 

[rschissler]

So when "The Civiliopedia says that the unit will retreat if it's losing unless fighting another fast unit.", that's not necessarily true?

 

[Turner]

Not accurate would be a better way to discribe it, because it does happen. Just not every time.

 

[vmxa]

So when "The Civiliopedia says that the unit will retreat if it's losing unless fighting another fast unit.", that's not necessarily true?

It should read "could" retreat. I can't remember, but I think originaly they would retreat adn at that time the statement was correct.

But the pedia is known to be less than perfect.

 

[plarq]

The Civiliopedia says that the unit will retreat if it's losing unless fighting another fast unit.
It means,when a Knight attack a Pike,or defend from a MDI,it has chance to retreat.But if a Knight fights another Knight,Samurai or Elephant,it will never retreat.
It also implies Cavalry or Rider can retreat from Knights and Tanks.

 

[QuantumEleven]

Also, to clarify something else - in my experience, a unit will not retreat if it its opponent is currently at 1HP (even if the opponent is not a fast unit). Is this true, or have I simply been having bad luck with retreats?

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I've had several occurences of this, Quantum, and I'd think it's more like if the attacker just brought down the defender to 1HP, it will press the attack. On a side note, I have never made an attack with a 1HP unit (yeah I do that sometimes and shouldn't) and have it retreat at some point.

 

[Turner]

It's called 'fight to the death' when both units are redlined. I think it's in the civilpedia someplace, but I could be wrong. Basically, when both units have only 1 hp left (maybe two) retreat is not an option.