MP3 players

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I am thinking bout getting myself an MP3 player, and I would like to know a few things about them:

1. What exactly IS an MP3 player?
2. What sort of functions do good MP3 players have?
3. How do they work?
4. What brands are best?
5. What is a ballpark price figure?
Or anything else you might think is useful.

Thanks :) :thanx:

noncon.

PS-I expect an answer from Longasc :).
 
I'm thinking about getting one myself. I know a couple important things to consider are where you plan to use it (car connectors needed, protection from elements, battery type and longevity) and what storage capacity you need. Do you want it to play just mp3s? Some units available now are really just a portable hard drive with listening gear so you can use them for players but can also take other files with you if needed.

Also consider how you will connect to other computers for file transfer and how easily you can use the onboards menus to sort/select your music. I can't recommend any brand or give prices since I'm still shopping.
 
There are different types of player.

I prefer Flash players, basically USB-sticks. They are very small and have little weight. Carrying an iPod around or anything bigger than an iPod mini all the time is quite cumbersome. There are some alternatives like iRiver's H-120 or Creative's Xen Touch, but both are as large an bulky. They offer up to 60 GB of data however.

There are some microdrive players like Creative's Muvo². 1,5 - 4 GB.

I would go for a MP3-Player with 256, 512 or 1024 MB.

50, 100, 200 songs usually, even more in .ogg or .wma.

You should make sure that your MP3-player has an output power of 7 mW left/right at the minimum. 14 mW is usually 7 mW x 2. I personally recommend nothing below 2x 10 mW, not powerful enough.

You should also read tests about battery life. 8 hours is the minimum, I would go for 12-16 hours, personally I would say even more. Usually MP3-Players use AAA batteries, some AA like iRivers iFP-series. Others have fixed rechargeable cells, but I would go for AA/AAA devices. You can replace and change them on the fly if need arises, the others usually need to be at the USB port to charge.

FM-Radio should be included, most MP3-players have also voice recording, but it is the feature I use usually not at all. Some players can encode directly to MP3.

Many modern players need a cable to connect to the computer - some are directly plugged into the USB, better if you need this as a thumb drive. USB 2.0 is a good idea if you want to use it as a thumb drive, too, in this case I would recommend:

Creative MuVo TX FM, 256 or 512 MB.

I was quite fond of the iFP-799 of iRiver, but it is too large and bulky. However, it had impressive battery life and great 18 mW / 18 mW output power.

Right now I am using this one:
http://www.weyco.de/html/weyco-5star.html

It might have another name in the UK, it is just an import from Korea.

Great output power and lots of features, good quality overall. The big problem is that it has only 7-8 hours battery life... like those crappy iPods.

http://www.weyco.de/html/produkte.html

if you compare to www.iriver.com, you can see they are trying hard to copy their stuff, hehe...


Get some quality earphones. Except iRiver's, who use Sennheiser earphones, most are sold with rather shabby ones. If you want it cheap and good, get Sennheiser MX300/400/500.

Sony's EX51/EX71 are good inEar-phones, I used the ED21-LP for a while, great grip, but the MX300 sounded just better. Right now I use Sony EX51LP.

Bottom Line:
iRivers have quality sound, superb output power and battery life.
They are however too large and weigh much more than the average.

Creative MuVo TX FM are great devices, except for the mediocre 7 mW output power...

As there are many MP3-players out there, just make sure to check output power, if the device needs a manager soft or can be used directly over USB, and battery life. (Expect the truth to be 75% of what they say <g>)
 
An MP3 player is a portable device that will play .mp3 files, the most common type of compressed music file used today. Many .mp3 players will also play other types of music files as well - .wma, .acc, .ogg file for example, depending on the type. You can get legally get the music files by ripping them from your CD's using one of a varity of programs (ask us if you need some suggestions here), by purchasing the songs from a variety online music services (iTunes, new Napster, Walmart one, ect), or by find public domain stuff on various P2P networks.

MP3 players come in three basic types, each with there own pros and cons. Also note that generally 1 megabyte of storage space will give you ~1 minute of music, though that various depending on what sound quality you encoded the music at. The three types are:

1) - Flash drive .mp3 players. These types are best if you plan on jogging with your .mp3 player - they are solid state, with no moving parts, and are therefor more shock resistant. The are pretty easy to use - plug into the USB(or sometimes Firewire) port and drag and drop your files on. Sizes range from 64megs to 4gigabytes. They are also the most expensive in terms of price/storage capacity. A 256 meg model will $92 at Walmart; a 4gigabyte iPod mini will sell for $230 ish.

2) - CD .mp3 players are basically CD players that will also play .mp3s files that you have burned onto a data disk. This lets you fit over 10 hours of music on a CD instead of the standard 70 minutes on a normal CD. Downside is that you have some moving parts, and you have to burn disks for it. They are also bigger than other music players. And the plus side, they are pretty cheap; I bought one for $30 at Walmart and it works pretty well. Note that 1CD = 700megabytes storage space.

3) Hard Drive based .mp3 players. These type of players offer the most storage space - the smallest I have seen are 1.5GB, with larger models offering upto 60Gigabytes of storage available. With the larger models, most people could store their entire music collections on one device. The downside is that you have moving parts with the hard drive, and there are no cheap models, though the price/storage space is good. I know you can pick up a 40gb model for $250 from Walmart.
 
You also have portable cd players who are able to play mp3, they are a lot cheaper than flash players. And I find 600mb of mp3's more then enough for a train ride or a short vacation. And it's not so hard to bring more mp3 cd's with you.

The downside is they are a lot larger then flash drive's so they won't fit in your pocket so easily. And they look less cool. But if you are satisfied with 600 mb and don't want to spend to much money you can consider them.
 
I have a great 30gb Xclef hdd-500. One of the best things I have ever bought. I can easily hold all my music on it, plus it's great as acting as an external hard drvie to move files from one machine to another
 
Is anyone familiar with PhatNoise? I'm considering a vehicle equipped with this system.
 
Okay, thans, guys. I think I'll get a Flash player with a bit of space for Crimbo.
 
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