Nation Selection List

Updated standings:

1. Ghandi with 20 pts
2. Cathrine with 9 pts.
3. Kublai Khan with 8 pts.
4. Fredrick with 7 pts.( tie breaker, he was mentioned on the most ballots)
5. Louis XIV with 7 pts.
 
I'm going to put in my two votes for Catherine and Asoka. I'll agree with Daveshack, I just don't think fast workers are all that important. And if we play as Gandhi, we're going to have a massive red target on our backs. I mean, *everyone* is going to want to kick the peacenik's butt.

So, I suppose...
1. Catherine
2. Asoka
3. Kublai Kahn
4. Frederick
5. Bismarck
 
Mauer said:
1. Ghandi
2. catherine
3. kublai khan
4. frederick
5. Roosevelt
Given the enlightenment cast by a few here, I'll change my list from the above to:

1. Catherine
2. Kublai Khan
3. Frederick
4. Roosevelt
5. Louis
 
New update:

1. Catherine at 19 pts.
2. Ghandi at 15 pts.
3. Kublai Khan at 12 pts.
4. Fredrick at 10 pts.
5. Louis XIV at 8 pts.
 
1. Ghandi (Spirituality is a must if we wish to be the Religion capital of the world)
2. Cathrine
3. Kublai Khan
4. Fredrick
5. Bismark
 
Update:

1. Catherine 23pts
2. Ghandi 20pts.
3. Kublai Khan 15pts
4. Fredrick with 12 pts
5.Louis XIV with 8 pts
 
The fast worker may be overrated, but that does NOT MEAN that other UU's are better. Industrious Spiritual is a wonderful combination of traits. All traits are benificial, but those two are very useful. One for religion and government, and the other to gain wonder benefits doubletime and before the other teams. I personally believe that a civ that starts with MYSTICISM IS A MUST! We should definately found the first religion and turn a few heads. Innovia must be the envy of the world. And we need mysticism to get off on the right footing.
 
The fast worker is a hell of alot more than over-rated. You finish improvements faster, so you need less workers. Which in turn saves you the shields (or hammers.. whatever they are) to make one in the first place. Also, the less maintance aids greatly.
 
Preffered Traits:
Spiritual
Creative
Philosophical
Industrious

Mauer! Don't give up on Ghandi! Fast Workers are so useful, one military unit for an entire game? Or workers forever! Worker power! Ghandi G! Worker Power! Ghandi G!
 
Strider said:
The fast worker is a hell of alot more than over-rated. You finish improvements faster, so you need less workers. Which in turn saves you the shields (or hammers.. whatever they are) to make one in the first place. Also, the less maintance aids greatly.

The 3 movement doesn't finish improvements faster, it just shortens the time walking between jobs. A little care in the order of improvements can often produce the same result. In my noble level games (vs AI) I'm soundly trouncing all competition using just 4-5 workers for a civ with about 10-12 cities. Don't have enough completed prince games for a valid evaluation.
 
Nomad Bryce said:
The fast worker may be overrated, but that does NOT MEAN that other UU's are better.

Actually, I'm really disappointed with UU's in Civ4. Across the board they don't seem to contribute anywhere near as much benefit as they did in Civ3.
 
I'm surprised no one else has vouched for saladin! Philosophical AND Spiritual! Religion and Great people! I LOOOOOOOOOOVE that combination! Think about it, found a religion, pump out a great prophet, bam, first wonder! Plus the religion would spread faster to our "Friends" and let us see their cities, and we would get money from them!

I BEG YOU! PICK SOMETHING WITH MYSTICISM! FIRST RELIGION BELONGS TO INNOVIA!
 
Creative & Industrious, wonders and culture. Thats the combo i loooooooove!
 
Saladin has an amazing combination! I would much rather be Saladin than Catherine! Building wonders is tough, but creating great people with philosophical, is not so hard!
 
So long as the leader is spiritual, I dont mind :).
 
I agree with DaveShack, the indian worker is one of the less useful UU's. I value financial much higher in my list:
1 Elizabeth
2 Catherine
3 Saladin
4 Kublai Khan
5 Alexander
 
My list

1. Saladin (spiritual/philosophical)
2. Catherine (creative/financial)
3. Kublai Khan (creative/aggresive)
4. Washington (financial/organized)
5. Elizabeth (philosophical/financial)

For the sake of trying something a little different than I am used to I think Saladin is a great choice. He doesn't have financial which is my favorite attribute, but I think the combinded Civ brainpower of our team can make him a very powerful leader. Catherine as a second choice gives us a lot of potential for scientific and resource power. Being one of the fastest researchers in the game would not be a bad strategy.
 
Also, for those people who voted Gandhi early on, if you want a spirtual/religion civ maybe you should consider switching to Saladin since it seems pretty clear that we will not be taking on the Indian civs as our civ of choice but everyone seems moderately comfortable with Saladin and his Great People.

I have to admit the idea of being able to found the first few religions and getting Great Prophets to pop the religious wonders sounds like a pretty sweet deal.
 
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