Nation Selection List

[Nomad Bryce]

1. Ghandi
2. Saladin
3. Louis XIV
4. Qin Shi Huang
5. Isabella

I am switching Ghandi and Saladin on my list! New list =
1. Saladin
2. Ghandi
3. Louis XIV
4. Qin Shi Huang
5. Isabella

Since Ghandi has fallen from favor, and due to good reasoning also (Daveshack, I'm telling you, hes a genius) I am know arguing for Saladin, a personal favorite of mine! The spiritual trait makes it easy for us to succeed in the sometimes time consuming religious aspect of the game, and the philosphical trait makes generating great people so easy that we could grab a couple in the begginning no sweat, without even having to stop our building process for the wonder benefits (Even though wonder benefits are usually better)

 

[Sigma]

After careful consideration, I am putting in my vote for civ selection:

1. Elizabeth
2. Kublai Khan
3. Catherine
4. Saladin
5. Roosevelt

 

[Nomad Bryce]

Saladin would make an excellent choice for our nation because:

1. We could lead a peaceful path, but still fight if we need to.
2. We would be cultural monsters
3. We would have many great people
4. Great People could build us wonders
5. Great People could learn us free techs
6. Great People could culture bomb important cities
7. Great People generating does not stop building of other essentials
8. Temples would be easier to build
9. Anarchy would never slow us down so updating our civics is not a problem
10. Civic mobility allows us to adjust during the later game for war circumstances
11. Religous wonders that come of religion+great prophet would allow us to easily spread our faith into other lands and reveal their cities for surveillance
12. Camel Archer comes at a strategically valuable time, when empires have been established and start to seek land through conquest

Feel free to list other positives and or negatives!

 

[Bengeance]

You've done an excellent job of laying out the positives for us.

Since I haven't played as Saladin to any real extent, what would people say are the best aspects of a game with Saladin and what are areas that may prove problematic?

 

[Nomad Bryce]

The only negatives are that he doesnt come with the other 6 traits =] Which there is nothing any other leader can do about it either. His combination of traits go together, instead of making 1+1=2 it really make 1+1=3. There is a famous japanese proverb that all swords are of equal value, but swords wielded side by side are the most valuable. Well these swords are particularly benifical to eachother.

 

[Veera Anlai]

I didn't put Saladin on my list, but I'd be willing to play under him. ^_^

 

[Strider]

The 3 movement doesn't finish improvements faster, it just shortens the time walking between jobs. A little care in the order of improvements can often produce the same result. In my noble level games (vs AI) I'm soundly trouncing all competition using just 4-5 workers for a civ with about 10-12 cities. Don't have enough completed prince games for a valid evaluation.

That "time" spent walking between jobs can account for 2-3 turns. It can also help get our workers out of danger. Add in that we won't get any "surprise," because our UU got attacked to early, and that the fast worker won't be useless at the end of the game... it's a hell of alot better than any other UU out there.

Also, no amount of "careful planning" is going to allow a worker to move two spaces instead of one. Nice try, but I'm not falling for it.

 

[Strider]

The purpose of making a whole new thread on a subject that already has a thread is what?

Needs to get merged with the nation selection thread.

Moderator Action: Merged. -- Chieftess

 

[Nomad Bryce]

I am striving so hard for Saladin now that I wanted to bring debate solely around his atributes. But I guess its ok if we debate it in here, as long as people still pay atttention. Saladin for nation selection! Please not Catherine! Mysticism for peace!

 

[Mauer]

I didn't put Saladin on my list, but I'd be willing to play under him. ^_^

I'll second this. May I suggest that since we seem to have quite a varying degree of choices, maybe we should elect a council of three to pick one for us. Just a suggestion, please ignore if you disagree.

 

[Swissempire]

Updated results:

Catherine= 29pts
Kublai KhanK= 24
Ghandi=19
Saladin=15
Fredrick= 13

 

[Swissempire]

Or we could go with the elcted results We have almost all voted!

 

[Mauer]

Or we could go with the elcted results We have almost all voted!

Follow instructions!! I said ignore

 

[Bengeance]

Just for clarification, how are you calculating the scores Swiss?

 

[Nomad Bryce]

If you people would like to see Saladin as our leader, please repost him as your selection! No one is opposed to Saladin, everyone seems to be at least mildly pleased with him, and some of us our ecstatic about him! Lets go for the one we ALL like!

Our Camel Archers (Our castle could be Camelot, and our knights, Camelites, whom ride camels!) will run down the other greek letters! And Piffle too! lol. Please vote Saladin!

 

[Swissempire]

Just for clarification, how are you calculating the scores Swiss?

Quite simple, aa leader gets 5 points for being 1st on a list, 4 for being 2nd, 3 for being 3rd, 2 for being 4th, and 1 for being 5th.

I call it the "Reverse Enigneered List Ranking Points System Method"

 

[Veera Anlai]

Yes, well, if that's the case, I'm changing my votes to:
1. Saladin
2. Asoka
3. Montezuma
4. Roosevelt
5. Victoria ~_^

 

[Sigma]

Since Elizabeth isn't even close, and I don't want to waste my votes, I guess I'll change to:

1. Saladin
2. Kublai Khan
3. Catherine
4. Elizabeth
5. Roosevelt

 

[Swissempire]

Updated Results:

1.Catherine at 24pts
2.Saladin at 23pts
3.Kublai Khan at 21pts
4.Ghandi at 19pts
5. Fredrick at 11pts

 

[Nomad Bryce]

CivGeneral! If you want a spiritual leader, put your vote in for saladin!