Naval Commanders

[obsolete]

Alright, took a while partly because I went VERY SLOW to eek out every hammer I could. You can see from the save I really went to value-town.

Anyhow, I over-teched math and glad now, since the AI`s seem to not want to trade ANYTHING to me. I wonder if there was a bug because Saladin, etc. dropped from pleased to cautious despite absolutely no diplo hit. WTH...

The parthenon will be close to completion after all. I`ve been abusing db-whips and putting growth + OF into it. From now on, switch que to a sword every time we are 1-turn away from pop 4, and just db whip, and dump the rest into Parth or whatever.

Also, we needed 1 more worker pronto anyway, so I made one and he is right beside the forest at Parthenon city. Chop that forest now, and by the time its`done we should be pretty much close to completion. We may lose the race but it`s certainly looking viable.

No sign from Surry yet, so we may be safe after all. Keep scouting around his lands I guess to find out for sure what`s going on.

BTW, after iron is mined and forest is chopped, build a road asap between the capital and parthenon. Then send a sword or two towards the barb city in the East. I wouldn`t raze it though, just keep it.

P.S. Saladin has a galley headed toward the gem island. There wasn`t anything we could do anyway so if he settles there no biggie. We still may have room to put a third city there regardless.

After music, we can re-evaluate what to tech next...

 

[kossin]

Wow, things go by so fast in a day!

Anyway, good progress. After NE we really need to get those cities out.

 

[obsolete]

Kossin, can u do the next session now, or should KKK take over again...

 

[kossin]

Ok, I'll play to the completion of Music (or us getting beaten there).

I'll look the save over and post a PPP.

 

[obsolete]

PPP = Pretty-Pompus-Plan?

 

[kossin]

No, petty!

 

[kossin]

* Home *
After NE, settler, worker, barracks, sword or 2 (no whip)

Parthenon city
After barracks, OF in Parthenon, switch to sword, chop in Parthenon, whip sword in Parthenon

Horsie stables
Gran>TP. I'd like to get a wb to scout east but I'm afraid of barb galleys...

Sury galley: scout for SoD. If it's far from us, try to keep going west.
Home galley: heal then head towards Stone spot (Iron island preferable but since obs saw a galley heading that way it might not be wise). Anyway, will check with settler when it's out I guess.

Tech: Music... stop if we get beaten to it.

 

[obsolete]

I don't remember seeing a galley going toward Iron Island.. just the Gem island so we should be able to still grab something there. Over at the stone area I'm not sure if we even have food for anything. And that drasted Willem has already settled near it. Though there MAY be something of interest there, I guess it's a little gamble again.

BTW, when combining whips with chops, just be careful about the OF-bug.

 

[RRRaskolnikov]

Btw Obsolete, paranoia seems to be going high if I judge by the sign spam (Kossin should stick a cottage in just because of this )

@Kossin: sounds good (maybe exploring with a wb is a bit suicidal now though with the viking bonus you might be able to do it). good luck!

 

[kossin]

Ok, I will play in an hour or so.
Time for last minute comments!

@RRRaskolnikov
Wouldn't a cottage just be great now? I mean, it would add 1 C!!!!111omg1one!

 

[RRRaskolnikov]

Wouldn't a cottage just be great now? I mean, it would add 1 C!!!!111omg1one!

 

[obsolete]

Wouldn't a cottage just be great now?

Well, only if we use the next priest to run a golden-age. That way our cottage can get +1 commerce for 8 turns!


That aside.. since Parthenon city should be db-whipping words, shouldn't the capital instead then focus on non-sword items like galleys, + settlers instead? Also, don't be afraid to build a 15h scout here and there (seriously) to stay peeking at what Julius & Surry are up to, etc. Just watch out for that f*cking of-bug.

On the other hand, I guess we want a few swords to capture the cities from Julius, but I think at this point he's got some good culture there, so we may have to back down until cats? Maybe build a cheap scout first to park near his good city and then we can build accordingly?

 

[kossin]

That aside.. since Parthenon city should be db-whipping words, shouldn't the capital instead then focus on non-sword items like galleys, + settlers instead? Also, don't be afraid to build a 15h scout here and there (seriously) to stay peeking at what Julius & Surry are up to, etc. Just watch out for that f*cking of-bug.

On the other hand, I guess we want a few swords to capture the cities from Julius, but I think at this point he's got some good culture there, so we may have to back down until cats? Maybe build a cheap scout first to park near his good city and then we can build accordingly?

Parthenon city will take a while to get out enough swords. It's 3~4 turns to grow from 2 to 4 so that's 1 sword/5 turn. The sooner we capture that barb city, the better.
Also, it gives us more flexibility if we get stabbed in the back.

Scout: yea good idea, I'll insert 1 before the settler. However that means we'll need another galley unless I pull the one protecting our Fish.

 

[obsolete]

Well, I'll leave the sword judgment, etc up to you.

If you venture out to settle on the Iron Island to the far East, please bring an extra galley with you, else I wouldn't want to lose both a galley and settler/worker to a barb navy.

 

[RRRaskolnikov]

On the other hand, I guess we want a few swords to capture the cities from Julius, but I think at this point he's got some good culture there, so we may have to back down until cats? Maybe build a cheap scout first to park near his good city and then we can build accordingly?

Scouting him during this set would be cool to prepare indeed.

Spoiler piling on Obsolete jokes :

(and make sure to trigger that GA to enhance your cottage build Kossin)

 

[kossin]

We won Music to a tie (not really.... just keeping the humor up). But I did build research on the last turn to save 1 turn of research.

More stupidity from Izzy.

Spoiler :

She didn't even get her wonder. Doh.

OTOH, Saladin is looking more juicer by the second.

Spoiler :

Just to make sure we'd get it, wasted some food.

Spoiler :

JC... we're still not a land target I believe, a few more adjacent tiles are required. Gotta love paying his colony upkeep for crappy cities.

Spoiler :

The next Prophet was an Engineer.

Spoiler :

I used him to rush the Moai in * Home *

More on JC:

Spoiler :

Remember Izzy?

Spoiler :

What the hell is she doing???

And our free GA. I queued Philosophy but we might want to change this.

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Diplo screen

Spoiler :

I turned the Sury boat around, there was very little units in his cities close to us. However, odds are JC is going to DoW us in some time, unless he goes after his WE or something.

Regarding a stupid mistake I did:
I lost us some food in exchange for gpt. Yea, that was dumb, I should have looked at the city screen of * Home * to see that it did not have extra happiness just yet. So I cancelled the wheat<-> fish and made wheat<->gold instead.

I suggest trading away our horses for a little bit now, they're not really useful while we tech up to Cuirassiers/Cavalry.

 

[obsolete]

I used him to rush the Moai in * Home *

Ohhh you are so dumb!

Obviously we needed to rush the Sistine Chapel in order to prevent Julius from culture-flipping our Parthenon city. Now we may lose our wonder too!


I'll do an analysis later on tonight after my time with my GF is spent...

 

[RRRaskolnikov]

Ohhh you are so dumb!

Obviously we needed to rush the Sistine Chapel in order to prevent Julius from culture-flipping our Parthenon city. Now we may lose our wonder too!


I'll do an analysis later on tonight after my time with my GF is spent...

This is turning into an unexpected bad jokes contest... beware, I have no rivals!

Looking good Kossin... I am too exhausted to be meaningfull now so will have a look tmr as well. I can play tmr evening.

 

[Tatran]

Lurker's comment :

I wonder if there was a bug because Saladin, etc. dropped from pleased to cautious despite absolutely no diplo hit.

Better rank difference?

 

[RRRaskolnikov]

Better rank difference?

(though don't tell Obsolete )