That reminds me... you know my patching policy, and probably won't go to 3.17 for at least another month or two... I'm going to need someone to make the patch files to 3.17. I know NikNaks offered, but to be honest I'd rather have him keep on the graphics then the code... I don't see us getting a 3.17 patch for BAT for quite a while. I don't see any reason why it would not work on 3.17, but you will have some units and buildings with 3.13 values.