No more diplomacy after reinstallation

[Hein]

Hi,

Nice to see other people still love CivII.
I have been playing CivII for many years now and prefer it over Civ3 and Civ4. This week I have reinstalled Civ2 (std. + FW + CIC) and found a bug that I do not understand and have not seen before. When loading old games the diplomacy works normal, but when starting new games the only reply I get from other civs is "Do you take us for fools? ..." and am not able to make peace or anything.

Can you help?

Thanks, Hein

 

[PaulT]

I think they are angry at your not playing their game for a while. Take the disk out, tell it you love, maybe stroke it a little (in the middle part, it's most erogenous zone) and put it back in.

 

[geofelt]

did you install the 2.42 update?

 

[Mercator]

He said he installed the FW and CiC add-ons already. 2.42 is only for classic Civ2 without any add-ons.

I'm wondering, though, in what order did you install the add-ons?

 

[Hein]

Maybe the upgrade order from std. CivII to FW + CiC went wrong. I will try again. I have thought about the 2.42 fix, but thought that that one is automatically fixed when installing the 2 add-ons.

 

[Mercator]

FW is the latest of those add-ons, by the way, so install that one latest. I doubt that could've caused this, but still.

The add-ons would fix the 2.42 patch things as well. They do keep a back-up of the original executable, though. After installing both add-ons, you'd have civ2.exe that would play FW, civ2scen.exe that would play CiC, and civ2orig.exe that would play the original. If you ever decided to run civ2orig.exe, it would be the unpatched version. So if you feel like being thorough, you can install the original, then the 2.42 patch, then the CiC add-on and finally FW.


Hmmm, the "Do you take us for fools? ..." text is under @ALLIANCENOBETRAY in Game.txt. I think that's the message you would get if you were inviting other civs to form an alliance when you have a very bad reputation. Is that actually the case? Does it appear when you're trying to make them an ally? Or does it appear as soon as you're initiating the diplomacy?

 

[Hein]

Hi,

after 3 tries it works again. Thanks for your input.
In the end I took the long way, so Civ original + 2.42 + CiC + FW.
I do not know why it didn't work w/o 2.42.

The feeling I had for the no diplomacy was that the program was in a kind of bloodlust mode that prevent players to change treaties with other civs. I remember vaquely that that is an option in scenarios, but I could not find any switch for that. For old saved files the diplomacy worked as normal, so I assumed that the software was correctly installed. Anyway it is solved now!